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87Cutlass Ciera
01-28-2009, 04:10 AM
So as you all know, last month the Cutlass C died (well not quite dead, but dead enough) So the plan is, I buy a car in the Summer(after I get out of Uni, so Mayish).
I've fell in love with an Oldsmobile. I'm fairly certain I've lost my mind but anyway. 1990-1992 Oldsmobile Toronado Trofeo. I saw, I love, I need one!! Funny thing is! I've found a few for sale, mind you they're in Ontario, so that requires plane ticket out, gas to drive back, and of course the car has to make it.
Anyways most of you guys are older than I am, have you had any run-ins with the Trofeo? Got any stories, any tales of despair or good news? I'm serious. I will fly to Toronto, buy the car and drive home. They're just so damn yummy looking!!:lol: Anyway, the thought of owning one is distracting me from my school work, so I need to stop thinking about it. Hopefully in 3 months there will be one closer to home and I will snatch it up! My girlfriend thinks snarled her nose up when she saw a picture, she just doesn't like old(er) cars, me on the other had. LOVE THEM! Ok, enough said, I'm glad we have this little off topic forum, and I hope everybody is doing well in 2009! Hard to believe we're soon into February! By the way. If anybody wants the Cutlass C, she's for sale! Great body on her, lots of work done recently, best offer. Here's the link to an ad I posted The Cutlass C on Kijiji (http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-Oldsmobile-Cutlass-Ciera-W0QQAdIdZ100227696) So yeah, see ya's around!
CRC :cheers:

dcjredline
01-28-2009, 04:16 AM
Dash's commonly dont work. Generally electrical gremlins haunt most of them. I love them too but I would stay away or REALLY REALLY REALLY check it out.

Techfizzle
01-28-2009, 04:30 AM
aw man i think they are swell as hell with the touch screen dash

Pontiac6ksteawd
01-28-2009, 05:58 AM
Touch screen dash? Are you on some copius amounts of crack?

The worst thing GM ever did was put that touch screen system in those cars. Great when they work, but LOT of $$$ to fix when they dont...

Find one without the touch screen, and alot of the electrical gremlins are gone with these cars. The rear air suspension is kinda of a pain to work on. Those 3800 engines run forever and a day, they are suposed to have a beefed up diferential in them, borrowed from their kissing cousin, the Allante'. Trans are still the biggest weak point on them, and they are really prone to rust. When they look good, they look great, but when they start going, they go quick..

ochy38
01-28-2009, 01:27 PM
My dad had an 86 a few years ago, which looks a bit different but still the same thing and I loved it. It was one of the coolest cars ever. The body held up pretty decently for upstate NY, too. He bought it new in 86 and sold it to my uncle in florida in 2001. As far as i can remember, the only thing my dad replaced was the gas lines. Then it was driven down to florida and my uncle owned it 1. a wheel fell off on the freeway (apparently not tightened) 2. the engine needed to be replaced 3. the a/c stopped working, all within a year or so.

T5258
01-28-2009, 02:40 PM
CRT screens=:thumbsdown:.....they are sweet looking though.....

Burgundy Ciera
01-28-2009, 10:37 PM
Touch screen dash? Are you on some copius amounts of crack?

That would explain quite a bit.

Techfizzle
01-28-2009, 11:48 PM
Hell Yeah
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http://messengerpuppet.blogharbor.com/_photos/trofeo.sized.jpg

87Cutlass Ciera
01-29-2009, 02:24 AM
Yes Tech, thats it. I don't care what colour it's in, preferably something darker, I think that red is nice, but I also like the white (which is weird, cause what shows too much) but the burgundy is also nice, and a dark blue. And yeah, I hope that whatever I find doesn't have the CRT screen

RIPBARNBURNER
01-29-2009, 01:39 PM
LOVE to have me a toronado. actually could be my next car. looks dead sexy in that burgandy color, too. cept i dont want the fancy-dancy digital dash crap. sucks. too much dollars to fix the things.

http://www.kemosabe1.com/toys/90Full.jpg

ochy38
01-29-2009, 04:30 PM
That burgandy color, if its the picture above, I do believe is called "black cherry", because thats the color my dad's 86 was. Beautiful color, when the sun hit it, it really shined.

T5258
01-29-2009, 07:45 PM
I remember going to the new car show in Boston in the 80's & early 90's & DROOLING over many of GM's offerings....these days, not so much....Nothing they offer (under 60k) has any style to match a Toronado of ANY year (even the bloated 70's offerings!!) It's just another sign of how GM has lost their way....:sad:...

87Cutlass Ciera
01-29-2009, 10:03 PM
Agreed!! The Toranado is Sex on wheels, I can just picture myself driving it. God I look good! :p But I've only ever seen one that I actually remember. It was in dark blue, I believe it was the 1990-92 style and it was this past October. I remember cause mom was driving me, and we drove past it and I made her go back so I could get a picture of it. just the other day though I deleted a bunch of pictures so I can't go find it :( So if I were to own one, It would be so rare around my home and pretty much all of the maritimes! I think if I found one that was in really good shape, I'd probably lay it up during the winter and drive a different vehicle. Oh if only 3 months would go by in the blink of an eye, then I could be acting on my dreams! Anyway, 3 months will go by quick enough, I can't believe we're 2 days away from the end of January!

87Cutlass Ciera
03-15-2013, 04:22 AM
Hey Folks! It's been a long time since I've dreamed this dream. The only thing is now it's possibly a reality. I've been driving a Dodge Dynasty for the past 2 years and the old girl is finally telling me it's time to move on to greener pastures. I don't have a lot of cash to spend on another car, but I came across a 1992 Trofeo which would be awesome to own. I can pick it up for probably $500 (she wants a grand for it, said she's take $600, and I think I can get her right down to the $500 mark). It'll need a new gas tank (I can smell it) and a windshield as well as e-brake cables, so I'm looking at $500 there for just the parts then a couple more to have the windshield installed. I might be able to do the tank and cables myself. She's Pearl White and has a bit of rust on the lip of the trunk, the gas cap and two small spots around the drivers side wheel well. All surface. Underside is great! No holes. Couple of questions if anybody cares to answer them for me.
- Does this car have the dreaded Teves ABS? Currently the ABS does not work... light on. Brakes work fine (minus the line I ruptured test driving the car)
- The air suspension doesn't work that I can tell. The arm for the control box was disconnected from the control arm, and when I had the car running, I moved the arm up and down and nothing changed, I couldn't hear a pump or anything
- Everything on the inside works, lights, heat, radio, seats, windows (minus the drivers side likes to come off the track...)

I'm beyond tempted to buy it because it's a decent price and it's not far from being drivable. But the ABS would just about make me kill myself if it fails and I'm out money to try and fix it.
Here's some pics.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/87CutlassCiera/DSCN2920.jpg
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/87CutlassCiera/DSCN2921.jpg
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http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/87CutlassCiera/DSCN2938.jpg

Thanks!
CRC

babyivan
03-15-2013, 04:38 AM
How many miles are on the car??

SilentWing
03-15-2013, 01:10 PM
Oh god.... with that much rust you might want to walk away. Not to crush any dreams, but we have a 92 Trofeo and those things are a mother-effin' nightmare to find parts for. If you could find one that had less rust it might be manageable. Another tip, don't get a 92 if you're set on having one. The 90-91 had more parts that were available for it than the 92. It took a miracle for us to find a motor mount that'll fit a 92. In 92 they changed the design of the mount so it's specific to a 92 toronado, no other car out there, period.

I could go on and on.... but like I said if you're set on one, go for an older-than-92 one. If you're still looking at that one, just beware that the floorboards are probably gone where they meet the pinch welds right in the corner where your feet sit. You can also open the door all the way and reach your hand down under the hinge where the a-pillar curves down to the back. Down there there's a wool piece that was meant to be a sound dampener, feel behind that and see if it's solid, that's a common spot for it rotting out. Ours looks much cleaner than that one, and it was still rotted to the point where we laid the car up for a month to fix it.

To answer your question, yes it is a Teves ABS system, that was before they came out with the Delco 6

87Cutlass Ciera
03-15-2013, 01:35 PM
Thank you! Although it doesn't really look like a lot of rust, it is all just surface stuff. I'll take your word for it. I was able to find a windshield and gas tank for about 200 bucks so that thought was promising. But reading about the Teves system really got me worried. **Sad face**. I thought I might become the owner of a sexy Trofeo. Guess I'll keep looking for some of my other dream cars. (Spirit R/T, Contour SVT, Taurus SHO, any 5 speed a-body). Haha
Have a good one. Oh! The odo says 112000kms but it may have rolled over?


Oh god.... with that much rust you might want to walk away. Not to crush any dreams, but we have a 92 Trofeo and those things are a mother-effin' nightmare to find parts for. If you could find one that had less rust it might be manageable. Another tip, don't get a 92 if you're set on having one. The 90-91 had more parts that were available for it than the 92. It took a miracle for us to find a motor mount that'll fit a 92. In 92 they changed the design of the mount so it's specific to a 92 toronado, no other car out there, period.

I could go on and on.... but like I said if you're set on one, go for an older-than-92 one. If you're still looking at that one, just beware that the floorboards are probably gone where they meet the pinch welds right in the corner where your feet sit. You can also open the door all the way and reach your hand down under the hinge where the a-pillar curves down to the back. Down there there's a wool piece that was meant to be a sound dampener, feel behind that and see if it's solid, that's a common spot for it rotting out. Ours looks much cleaner than that one, and it was still rotted to the point where we laid the car up for a month to fix it.

To answer your question, yes it is a Teves ABS system, that was before they came out with the Delco 6

SilentWing
03-16-2013, 12:38 AM
It probably has rolled over, ours says 119k but as far as the car knows it has 219k even though the engine was replaced.

Don't get me wrong, I love this car to death, but unless you've got time for it to be laid up you're probably better off getting a car you might still be able to find parts for. Let us know what you do get :)

87Cutlass Ciera
03-17-2013, 04:25 AM
. Let us know what you do get :)
I found 2 a-body's worth looking into. There's this one
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Best-value-for-a-timeless-Oldsmobile-W0QQAdIdZ454999569

And there's a nasty green 1984? Cutlass Ciera Sedan I've seen for sale in a car lot. The fact that it's in fantastic shape is what has me intrigued. Might go take some pics just for everybody to see :)

babyivan
03-17-2013, 04:34 AM
I found 2 a-body's worth looking into. There's this one
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Best-value-for-a-timeless-Oldsmobile-W0QQAdIdZ454999569

And there's a nasty green 1984? Cutlass Ciera Sedan I've seen for sale in a car lot. The fact that it's in fantastic shape is what has me intrigued. Might go take some pics just for everybody to see :)

I think I can see some rust on the rear wheel well. I guess that's pretty common up north. As long as the brake lines are good which is probably the case since the ad says it was routinely undercoated, I don't think fender rot is a deal breaker.
Also, it's a coupe, I friggin love the coupes (who the hell doesn't)! It probably has the 3.3, a great engine!! I say go for it as long as it runs good.

As for the '84, I recommend staying away for the mere fact that finding parts for it is going to be a major pain in the ass!
It's bad enough trying to find stuff for my '87, I could only imagine how much worse it is for anything older!

SilentWing
03-17-2013, 03:45 PM
I'd get the blue one for $1000, I'm not sure how they undercoated it every year unless they oiled it every winter. But it looks to be in nice shape. I went to the larger image and enlarged it another 300% using my internet browser and I'm not seeing any rust on the rear wheel wells, just dirt on the quarter panel. Brake lines are a lot easier to fix than serious rot issues. Check it out in person and let us know.

As for the '84, Babyivan has a point, it is going to be more difficult to find parts for even being a Ciera.

85_Ciera_Rebuild
03-18-2013, 04:59 AM
is going to be more difficult to find parts for even being a Ciera.

GM tends to use same drive-line and engine parts for years, but interior/body parts are another story.

In later years, there are a number of changes that took place, but I would venture to say engine/drive line parts will be available in years to come.

For instance, I have a 1968 AMC Rambler 199 cu inch 6 cyl engine sitting on a pallet, and I can still get an engine rebuild kit (http://www.amcstore.com/catalog.htm). From a BASIC KIT at $575 to a DELUXE KIT at $995.

High price...but there are parts available....

If a transmission was still intact, one could find bearings/bushings, and overhaul it.

One may have to take time to look for parts, but they may be found, or you might re-adapt using another transmission, rear-end, etc.

87Cutlass Ciera
03-19-2013, 03:22 AM
I had a look at the 84, which is more like an 85 actually ahah. It's definitely not near as pretty as the Coupe. But it's unique. Here are some shots. I couldn't get a look at what was under the hood, I'm going with the good 'ol Duke. 3spd on the column. No options (besides air and a cassette deck). Its in great shape minus the front of the drivers side rocker panel. Odometer says 59000kms wow! Probably want an arm and a leg for it

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/87CutlassCiera/DSCN2955.jpg
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I really miss my rectangle speedo. Everybody who ever got in my Olds commented on my speedometer! Now they get in the Dynasty and comment on the bright red Velour interior. In this car they'll have both to comment on!

babyivan
03-19-2013, 04:49 PM
It's got bucket seats, wow! And I think it might have cruise. 80's GM cars were always bizarrely optioned, mine included.

Underneath looks clean, I can see undercoating.

I don't think I could handle a 4 banger... in fact, I KNOW I COULDN'T!!! A V6 at the minimum, I'm too hard on cars. Plus, I don't think the car could get out of it's own way with a 4 cylinder!!
No offense to the guys with the Iron Duke, but I drove my neighbor's '87 Ciera with that engine and it felt like a slug.

I love the shape, the car is definitely a looker!

I had blood red interior in my former Regal, I loved it! Red on red.

I still say go with the coupe though.... V6 and MUCH easier to find parts. And it's a COUPE!!!!!!!! Way cool!

Pontiac6ksteawd
03-25-2013, 05:58 AM
Hey, I got one for ya...

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cadillac-Allante-2-door-/330896261224?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0af44068 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cadillac-Allante-2-door-/330896261224?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0af44068)

I use to own this exact car (color, year, and everything). Price isnt to bad either.

Dburger
05-01-2013, 10:06 PM
Congrats on the buy! This is my dark red '90. Hasn't been started in 10 years
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t515/FordTorino73/augustaandsctrip6-25-6-28032.jpg (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/FordTorino73/media/augustaandsctrip6-25-6-28032.jpg.html)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
05-02-2013, 04:47 AM
Hey, I got one for ya...


Nice Ride, but 4.5 L, 8 cyl, Automatic 4-spd

6.2 gallons/100 mi