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85_Ciera_Rebuild
04-09-2009, 04:06 AM
In 1955-57, several thousands were built (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ-M20_Pobeda)with a four-wheel drive
system adapted from contemporary Soviet military vehicle (GAZ-69) for
cross-country travel (designated GAZ-M-72). Russian references credit
these as possibly being the first comfortable off-road vehicle, with
closed unitized body.



http://englishrussia.com/images/first_suv_ever/3.jpg

http://englishrussia.com/images/first_suv_ever/4.jpg

86euro
04-09-2009, 04:12 AM
I dunno man, the Suburban was around 20 years before that. And the 4x4 models were available around then too.

It does look pretty cool though, like a baja VW on steroids.

Tuddi
04-09-2009, 04:27 AM
This example is beautiful!

Not the stock production model by any twist and turn of the imagination, but absolutely gorgeous.

Here's a link to pictures of the original versions (http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ru&u=http://gaz20.spb.ru/modif_m721.htm&usg=ALkJrhg0tf3hC2cBI2Tf3kDEMV6v0tWInQ)

I'm very familiar with the GAZ69, from which the drive train came for the Pobeda 4x4 production.

CamoDeafie
04-09-2009, 03:28 PM
I'd argue that the Willys/Ford Jeeps/GPs were the originators of the whole "SUV" craze.....postwar, they were sold in the thousands to farmers, people who used them for everything from fishing, camping, hunting, farm duties, and beaches.....same for the Land Rovers in safaris, adventures, and such..... (irony, first Land Rovers used major componets of jeeps...)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
04-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Suburban was around 20 years before that.



Russian references credit
these as possibly being the first comfortable off-road vehicle,

I have no idea what that means...

Tuddi
04-09-2009, 05:32 PM
There were 4x4's "jeeps" produced in Russia back in 1941... Jeep/Ford M151 were not produced until 1942.

But the waters may be muddy on exactly who did what first. I think the claim of "first SUV" is more specific than general... as in "a passenger car with four wheel drive". Meaning "a comfortable 4x4". But don't hang me up on it.

Tuddi
04-09-2009, 05:33 PM
Russian references credit
these as possibly being the first comfortable off-road vehicle,


:) Ok, you were there first

85_Ciera_Rebuild
04-09-2009, 09:21 PM
...look....like a baja VW on steroids.

Sort of looks like a 544 Volvo here (http://www.swaqvalley.com/Blueprints/1963_Volvo_PV544_Sport.jpg), without the 4x4 undercarriage.

CamoDeafie
04-10-2009, 01:00 AM
according to the willys MB site, the first Jeeps of the type known later as Jeeps, were Bantam prototypes in 1940, and Willys made the MA model in 1941, Ford made the GP model in 1941, and through Lend-Lease, the Soviet Union had Jeeps and copied them.... in 1948, Land Rover was founded; Jeep as a company was founded later on, but the model was already around before the CJ3 series, produced by Willys and later on AM-General then becamew its own brand and acquired by Chrysler. :) so..yes. Jeeps were ahead. I'm not sure of the VW Kubelwagen Type 86s though....could be considered first SUV by virtue of age and 4x4 drive system, but because it didn't perform as good as the Jeep...wasn't popular till much later?