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Sport Omega
02-21-2010, 01:08 PM
Some of you have seen my wanted ad for parts so if I'm going to start showing more pics I'd better get this started. If you've clicked on the cardomain link you've seen its going to need some serious work. I put in for a subscription so hopefully I can start posting pics soon. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3341573

Sport Omega
03-03-2010, 10:40 PM
I went to the junkyard today and cut the floor out of the 84 Skylark that they got in before Christmas. That took about 2 1/2 hours to remove the seats, belts, carpet, and the other usual stuff on the floor and use a sawzall to cut it out. I'm glad I found a car to take a floor from. I used sheetmetal to make the floorpans in my 82 Turismo. It sucks trying to make them out of flat pieces of sheetmetal. It will still save me lots of fab time and also look more professional.

turbokinetic
03-04-2010, 11:38 PM
I went to the junkyard today and cut the floor out of the 84 Skylark that they got in before Christmas. That took about 2 1/2 hours to remove the seats, belts, carpet, and the other usual stuff on the floor and use a sawzall to cut it out. I'm glad I found a car to take a floor from. I used sheetmetal to make the floorpans in my 82 Turismo. It sucks trying to make them out of flat pieces of sheetmetal. It will still save me lots of fab time and also look more professional.

Good you're getting it going. You can make a post in the "build threads" area in Project Central. Admin will approve it and then you can post there.

I bet it was hard to make a floorpan from flat metal! I would never attempt that!

Later,
David

Sport Omega
03-07-2010, 03:27 PM
I went to the Upull on the south side of the cities yesterday and got the heads and piston/rod assemblies from a 3.4 Camaro. That was quite a job without a hoist to pickup the engine to pull the pan off. They do have a Citation I have to go back and get the intake off of it I ran out of time yesterday. Now I can start putting together my carb'd 3.4.

Sport Omega
03-12-2010, 01:27 AM
I also removed the front bumper cover and took it to work so I could drop it off at one of the car dealers on my route so Keystone could pick it up and start fixing it. I could have done it myself but sometimes it's better to let the professionals do it. I know I would've spent probably a week trying to repair the cover. It needed a lot of work where the paint was rubbed off and it also had a hole and a tear. It's going to be about $400 by the time they're finished. I'll just get a couple of side jobs to help pay for it no big deal. I'd rather do some mechanical repairs on other peoples cars to pay for it than try and save money by doing it myself. I'll get it back and it will be flawless and that's that.

turbokinetic
03-12-2010, 01:46 AM
I also removed the front bumper cover and took it to work so I could drop it off at one of the car dealers on my route so Keystone could pick it up and start fixing it. I could have done it myself but sometimes it's better to let the professionals do it. I know I would've spent probably a week trying to repair the cover. It needed a lot of work where the paint was rubbed off and it also had a hole and a tear. It's going to be about $400 by the time they're finished. I'll just get a couple of side jobs to help pay for it no big deal. I'd rather do some mechanical repairs on other peoples cars to pay for it than try and save money by doing it myself. I'll get it back and it will be flawless and that's that.

Interesting - so you Keystone is a company who can restore urethane bumper covers? A friend has a T-Type with a urethane front bumper/ spoiler that is badly damaged.

How's the engine repair coming?

David

Sport Omega
03-12-2010, 03:21 AM
It'll be a little while before I have the funds to get a set of gaskets, rings, bearings, and all the other stuff to get the engine work going. I just have to get back out to the upull and get the other stuff I need from the Citation. They only keep cars for about 3 months at those yards before they crush it. I need to also get the radiator fan and the bracket for the dogbone motor mount. I'll take a look at the condition of the radiator, but for what a new one costs I'll just get a new one when I get that far.

turbokinetic
03-12-2010, 04:30 AM
It'll be a little while before I have the funds to get a set of gaskets, rings, bearings, and all the other stuff to get the engine work going. I just have to get back out to the upull and get the other stuff I need from the Citation. They only keep cars for about 3 months at those yards before they crush it. I need to also get the radiator fan and the bracket for the dogbone motor mount. I'll take a look at the condition of the radiator, but for what a new one costs I'll just get a new one when I get that far.

Yeah, I've seen our Pull A Part place crush cars with engines, all sorts of other stuff still in them. They have alot of turn-over.

I always stop by when I'm in south LA for work, and if there is something good; I plan a day after my work duty ends to strip it!

Can you explain more about the Keystone bumper cover repairs? I'm very interested in that! :)

Later,
David

Sport Omega
03-13-2010, 04:21 AM
You remember Keystone Classics? The rims everybody put on their cars back in the 70's. Now they're into all sorts of collision repair parts and refurbishment. Flexible bumper repair is a very big part of their business these days. http://www.keystone-auto.com/ If they don't already have one in stock, they can refurbish it provided it's not missing a huge piece or the material is starting to check real bad. Mine was borderline since it was so old but the material was still flexible enough. Once it gets too hard, there is no saving it.

turbokinetic
03-13-2010, 04:25 AM
Interesting, will have to forward that to my friend with the T-Type. His is still flexible, just hit a curb and ripped it into about 3 pieces!
David

Sport Omega
03-13-2010, 04:37 AM
They can still fix that. They said they can weld it back together even if it's been torn in half.

turbokinetic
03-13-2010, 04:44 AM
Awesome!

I was looking over their website, and have yet to locate a link to where you can actually buy services from they or their distributors.

Sport Omega
03-13-2010, 04:51 AM
I called their local office here in the Twin cities after the guys at the Honda dealer I deliver to gave me their phone number and they picked it up from their. I'll give you the Minneapolis number and maybe they can give you a number to call in your area. 612-789-1919

turbokinetic
03-13-2010, 05:02 AM
Thanks, I will forward that to my frien shortly.

He's been able to locate a couple used pieces but they all ended up being scams, or they sold before he could get to them.

Sport Omega
03-15-2010, 12:09 AM
I started to pull out the dents on the drivers quarter panel so I got to try out my new toy, a stud welder/dent puller. It works pretty good, something you definitely need for dent repair when you can't get at it from the back side to help push out the dent. Bodywork takes a lot of patience, you can't go hog wild with the slide hammer on the studs. Gentle hammering and massaging with another hammer around the area being pulled. also invest in a basic set of hammer/dolley blocks too. Remember, if it's more than 1/16 thick of bondo it's going to crack eventually. Once I get the quarter panel straightened I can start messing with repairing the fender flare.

turbokinetic
03-15-2010, 12:20 AM
I started to pull out the dents on the drivers quarter panel so I got to try out my new toy, a stud welder/dent puller. It works pretty good, something you definitely need for dent repair when you can't get at it from the back side to help push out the dent. Bodywork takes a lot of patience, you can't go hog wild with the slide hammer on the studs. Gentle hammering and massaging with another hammer around the area being pulled. also invest in a basic set of hammer/dolley blocks too. Remember, if it's more than 1/16 thick of bondo it's going to crack eventually. Once I get the quarter panel straightened I can start messing with repairing the fender flare.

Neat.

I'm fearless with motor and tranny work but bodywork is another story! I can repair broken fiberglass but when it comes to dent repairs and shaping metal - it's a skill I never aquired! More power to you!

I often wanted to take a bodywork class at the local college but my offshore work schedule conflicts too bad.

Do you have any pictures you can post? For some reason I'm really liking this car! The picture of it in the salvage yard before you got it - it looked so abandoned and sad yet there was so much hope there... I really want to see this one come together!

David

Sport Omega
03-15-2010, 01:30 AM
I am glad I rescued it. To date I have only come across one person in Michigan that has told me one shows up at the Sloan Auto Fair car show in Flint, Michigan every year. So currently including my own there are only 2 known surviving. I'm sure there is a couple more out their, but it's finitely a keeper.

turbokinetic
03-16-2010, 02:54 AM
I am glad I rescued it. To date I have only come across one person in Michigan that has told me one shows up at the Sloan Auto Fair car show in Flint, Michigan every year. So currently including my own there are only 2 known surviving. I'm sure there is a couple more out their, but it's finitely a keeper.

That's cool!

I feel that way (a keeper) about my GS. It wasn't in imminent danger of being recycled but the transmission is going out and the previous owner might have been the "junk it not worth fixing" type.

I always post pictures by placing them on my IIS shared folder and using that address. Most others here use Photo Bucket. Would love to see some pictures of your work here!

Later,
David

Sport Omega
03-22-2010, 01:27 AM
I made it back out to Upull today and got the intake manifold I needed and realized i'd also better take the valve covers. They have brackets welded to them for the throttle cable and various other things. I got the cruise control setup, radiator fan and the radiator brackets which I was also missing. To my surprise I seen a white 81 Omega 2 door on the frontage road near the exit to Co. road 46 in Rosemount. I stopped in on the way home but no one was home. I took some pics anyway and it is a 4 speed car. He has some nice 16" 5 spoke rims on it. I left him a note to see if he'd sell it. It was awesome. He also had a 2 door Ciera GT(dark burundy met./silver), and a red/black Firenza 2 door(a little rusty but not bad). Definitely a front drive Olds collector. I also got the front sway bar from a Celebrity Euro Wagon, definitely much bigger.

white89euro
04-19-2010, 11:10 PM
Hi Sport Omega! Great to see you rescuing a rare old car. Just wondering if you needed to replace the title, and if so what that involved.

George

Sport Omega
04-20-2010, 01:19 AM
Every state is different I suppose. For Minnesota it's not as hard as I thought it would be, but it is also important not to tell them that you bought it from a salvage yard of they will give it a marked title. I just got the MN state general bill of sale form and had a friend fill out the necessary info saying he sold it to me for $xxx. The state does a check to see if it's in the DMV records(of course it wasn't since it's been 15 years since its last registration). I'll have the title probably later this summer.

turbokinetic
04-20-2010, 01:33 AM
Every state is different I suppose. For Minnesota it's not as hard as I thought it would be, but it is also important not to tell them that you bought it from a salvage yard of they will give it a marked title. I just got the MN state general bill of sale form and had a friend fill out the necessary info saying he sold it to me for $xxx. The state does a check to see if it's in the DMV records(of course it wasn't since it's been 15 years since its last registration). I'll have the title probably later this summer.

I wish it was that simple here! It used to be but certain people abused the system and now Alabama has one of the most restrictive registration laws around.

Glad you're getting it together!

Later,
David

Sport Omega
05-24-2010, 12:17 AM
I got the plates and registration taken care of on Friday. The gal said the state may want to have it bonded, then she took a look at the photos and said" yeah, I don't think you'll have to worry about that. It's clearly been out of commission for a long time. You really have your work cut out for you". HAHA.

CamoDeafie
05-24-2010, 01:47 AM
good to hear! hey question, your friend...on the Car domain site, the one you mentioned having had lots of X car parts and 50 cars at one time? (wondering about a particular manual steering rack LOL) good to see that you're restoring the Omega!

Sport Omega
05-24-2010, 02:33 AM
I'll call him tomorrow and see if he has one.

Sport Omega
05-26-2010, 03:27 AM
Greg called me today to see if I could make it over this week to look at what he has left. He tore down his old garage and is putting up a new one and needs to let this stuff go. I'll see what he has tomorrow. He did mention he has new grilles and such for Citations so I can't wait to see what's all there.

CamoDeafie
05-26-2010, 03:51 AM
awesome; would be nice to have a NOS X body manual rack to compare against an A-body power rack :)

Sport Omega
05-26-2010, 04:06 AM
Hey, you're in Oregon. You should check this car out. Pretty rare actually, 84 Ford EXP Turbo. http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1757733244.html

CamoDeafie
05-26-2010, 04:28 AM
damn, whats an EXP? that looks interesting (only thing is i have no fking clue how to drive a manual lol)

Sport Omega
05-26-2010, 11:45 AM
The EXP/Mercury LN7 were a little 2 seater based off the Escort. It's the same wheelbase, they just never put in a back seat. Go here to see some more pics. The turbo models had a front air dam so they looked a little sportier. http://www.fordexp.com/

CamoDeafie
06-06-2010, 12:03 AM
oooo nice. so whats the update on the Sport Omega
?

Sport Omega
06-06-2010, 10:41 PM
I've been busy getting the Charger done. After 5 years of working on that car I finally pulled it off the stands and took it for a drive. I got the alignment done so now there is a few more things to tweak before Car Craft so that car has been my priority lately. It's a blast to drive, people are expecting it to be a front wheel drive burnout and then......psych! gotcha! Anyway, I'll get back to some tinkering on the engine for the Omega this week tearing it down and swapping out and replacing the parts necessary for the 3400 carb buildup.

CamoDeafie
06-06-2010, 11:26 PM
alrighty awesome, isnt the charger a RWD conversion you're doing?

Sport Omega
06-07-2010, 12:50 AM
Yes, that's why it has taken so long. It's cool to see the L67 in a rear drive setup with a manual tranny.

Sport Omega
06-21-2010, 04:26 AM
I worked on the replacement drivers door today. Spot blasting the surface rust and the bottom of it to make sure exactly how solid it was. Looks good, and now that I blasted the spots clean then I applied the rust converter to the nice clean but slightly pitted metal. I also sandblasted the drivers lower quarter panel area and did some more straightening out the area around the wheel opening. Looks like I will have to patch it in at the very top of the opening. The lip is rusted a bit so it's not spot welded to the outer wheel house anymore. I spent yesterday taking another stab at installing the M62 supercharger on my 82 Turismo 2.2. I put it on the back burner for a while because I couldn't get it to idle. I had to big of an empty space at the supercharger inlet and needed to fill it in. I also realized it needed a smaller pulley because it wasn't getting any real boost. It idles fine now at about 650 rpm. I will have to drop the exhaust however, I realized the primary converter is almost plugged. That'll be a fairly easy fix. Now that it works I also need to finish making an air cleaner setup.

Sport Omega
07-24-2010, 07:54 PM
I got the title yesterday from the DMV, Woohoo! I also started on the engine, It's all cleaned up and ready for teardown. The gasket surfaces have been cleaned, now to pull out the pistons and start honing and dropping in the right piston/rods.

turbokinetic
07-24-2010, 07:59 PM
I got the title yesterday from the DMV, Woohoo! I also started on the engine, It's all cleaned up and ready for teardown. The gasket surfaces have been cleaned, now to pull out the pistons and start honing and dropping in the right piston/rods.

Wonderful - very glad they didn't give you a problem with the title. It's always a little nervewracking dealing with the government!

You have any engine pictures?

Thanks,
David

Sport Omega
08-08-2010, 03:35 AM
I've got some pics posted on tcstangs.com . I haven't figured out how to attach the pics on this site yet. I've been off this week so I got the carbed 3400/4speed installed. I cut out the rusted battery tray and replaced that too. It looks really cool having the carb intake/serpentine belt setup. http://www.tcstangs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89816&page=4

turbokinetic
08-08-2010, 06:33 PM
I've got some pics posted on tcstangs.com . I haven't figured out how to attach the pics on this site yet. I've been off this week so I got the carbed 3400/4speed installed. I cut out the rusted battery tray and replaced that too. It looks really cool having the carb intake/serpentine belt setup. http://www.tcstangs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89816&page=4

I looked at that thread and saw no pictures at all.

Just curious what is wrong when you try to link a picture on this forum?

David

CamoDeafie
08-08-2010, 06:44 PM
so; which carb intake was it that you used? a 4bbl or the 2.8 varajet?

turbokinetic
08-08-2010, 07:37 PM
so; which carb intake was it that you used? a 4bbl or the 2.8 varajet?

Finally the pictures worked! That is looking good - I like the blue engine colors too. That is a Varajet manifold as far as I can tell! It looks just like the carb intake for my old 83 Century.

CamoDeafie
08-08-2010, 08:40 PM
hum. thats awesome! i saw the pics on the thread in turbobuick forum's lounge....i think this might be the FIRST 3400 build with a carb intake...... nice to see i aint the only one who wants to do a carb version of a more modern engine LOL

turbokinetic
08-08-2010, 08:48 PM
....nice to see i aint the only one who wants to do a carb version of a more modern engine LOL

Lol! Part of me wants to say "go for it" but the rest of me wants to say "you'll learn..."

CamoDeafie
08-08-2010, 09:19 PM
lol. the 82 ciera came with a carb v6; i intend to keep it carbed XD

Sport Omega
08-09-2010, 04:51 AM
It took a little bit to get the manifold to sit down over the roller lifter retainers. I ended up having to remove the EGR heat shield and also pretty much cut the EGR plenum off the bottom of the manifold/have the ports welded shut. I'll still plumb in an EGR valve. A guy came over this weekend and bought the leftovers from the 3400 and he gave me the manifolds/crossover-downpipe from his Fiero that has a valve mounted on the pipe.

turbokinetic
08-09-2010, 12:54 PM
It took a little bit to get the manifold to sit down over the roller lifter retainers. I ended up having to remove the EGR heat shield and also pretty much cut the EGR plenum off the bottom of the manifold/have the ports welded shut. I'll still plumb in an EGR valve. A guy came over this weekend and bought the leftovers from the 3400 and he gave me the manifolds/crossover-downpipe from his Fiero that has a valve mounted on the pipe.

Neat conversion! That will look just like the original 2.8 setup but will surely have plenty of get-up-and-go! Lol about mounting the EGR valve. I guess you have smog inspections in your area?

You're going to use a vacuum-mechanical distributor and non-CCC carb?

Thanks for the update!
David

Sport Omega
08-10-2010, 05:09 AM
No, we don't have smog inspections here anymore. They quit I think about 10 years ago if not more. An EGR valve isn't a bad thing, you can actually run a couple more degrees advance if it's working properly. I have a vacuum advance HEI, I still need to find a carb. I'd actually like to run a small cap vacuum advance distributor with the remote coil. The 82 S-10 2.8 used one. They have reman ones on rockauto.com for about $100, Cardone part#301630. The wiring harness is already setup for the remote coil so I think it would look better with the smaller cap. Anybody have a non computer carb?

CamoDeafie
08-10-2010, 05:38 AM
this is the closest i can find. the 2SE is the non CCC version, 1979-maybe 1980, in 81 the E2SE came in..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ROCHESTER-Carb-VARAJET-II-V6-2-8L-2SE-79-1988-CHEVY-GM-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ200505599618QQptZMotorsQ5f CarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

turbokinetic
08-10-2010, 01:50 PM
No, we don't have smog inspections here anymore. They quit I think about 10 years ago if not more. An EGR valve isn't a bad thing, you can actually run a couple more degrees advance if it's working properly. I have a vacuum advance HEI, I still need to find a carb. I'd actually like to run a small cap vacuum advance distributor with the remote coil. The 82 S-10 2.8 used one. They have reman ones on rockauto.com for about $100, Cardone part#301630. The wiring harness is already setup for the remote coil so I think it would look better with the smaller cap. Anybody have a non computer carb?

Ya know - I had a non CCC carb at one time but not sure where it is now. Whe I get home (which may be several weeks) I can look for it. Hopefully you have a good one before that point!

On the EGR, I played with that on my turbo 3.8 project and it does help with fuel milage, but there is a tradeoff. It indeed causes the engine to have more intake manifold and intake valve deposits. This can be aggravated if the tune (or carb adjustment) is not perfect in the EGR-open ranges. I tried to ensure the tune is always somewhat lean in this area to help with the carbon in the intake.

Did they ever use a BIG cap HEI on these? I don't see how that would fit.

David

CamoDeafie
08-10-2010, 04:08 PM
you have a non CCC varajet carb?

turbokinetic
08-10-2010, 09:14 PM
you have a non CCC varajet carb?

I THINK I may have one, that was from the days when I had my 2.8 carb in my 83 Century.

David

CamoDeafie
08-11-2010, 07:03 AM
pretty sure the 83 A-bodies had CCC feedback carbs other than the TBI 4 cyls....

turbokinetic
08-11-2010, 12:39 PM
pretty sure the 83 A-bodies had CCC feedback carbs other than the TBI 4 cyls....

Yep they all came with CCC carbs, but mine had been converted to non-ECM control. If I have the carburetor it is definately non-CCC. I'm just not sure I can locate it now.

Sport Omega
08-12-2010, 11:03 AM
Let me know if you find the carb.

turbokinetic
08-12-2010, 12:34 PM
Let me know if you find the carb.

Will do. I will try hard to remember to look for it, but keep reminding me!

Sport Omega
08-22-2010, 01:39 AM
Somebody on craigslist locally had a brand new carb for $50. I'll be picking it up tomorrow. I also got the drivers front suspension all redone. Looks much better than the original wheel bearing pic I posted on cardomain. I have placed a pic on same page. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3341573/3

Sport Omega
09-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Let's see if I can get some pics uphttp://yourgarage.nbc.com/photos/supercharged024?photo ....Not working

Sport Omega
11-02-2010, 01:48 AM
A guy I talked to earlier this summer just called me and sent a picture message. You guessed it, he picked up a Sport Omega and had it shipped here from southern Ohio. So now 2 of the 696 reside here in the Mpls/St. Paul metro area. How cool is that!!!

SilentWing
11-02-2010, 01:54 AM
Wow talk about a coincidence. That is pretty sweet, you guys should go to car shows together with them from now on :D

turbokinetic
11-02-2010, 01:58 AM
A guy I talked to earlier this summer just called me and sent a picture message. You guessed it, he picked up a Sport Omega and had it shipped here from southern Ohio. So now 2 of the 696 reside here in the Mpls/St. Paul metro area. How cool is that!!!

Awesome, that's neat that you got him fired up to restore one of them!

Sport Omega
11-02-2010, 04:36 AM
So turbok, I did pick up that NOS feedback carb for 50 bucks but have you found your non feedback carb lying around?

Sport Omega
11-26-2010, 06:18 PM
I got my pushrods a couple weeks ago, ordered a set of roller tip rockers. I'll get them next week. Work has been busy and probably will be until the end of the holidays(UPS driver) so I won't get much if anything done for a while. I just won't have the energy or motivation. Anyway, I've actually been researching the F40 6 speed manual tranny from the Pontiac G6. I've found 2 places that have brand new never installed ones for $525-550. Not a bad deal really. I just need to find the other items and add up the total expense first. Brand new shift cable assembly from GM is only $49, shifter $131.05, used cv shafts $100 each. According to a couple sites it will bolt to the 3400. I need to look at the specs of the flywheel mounting points if there is a difference between the dimensions from the one piece main seal style 2.8/3.1 flywheel and the G6 3.9 flywheel. If the clutch kit from the G6 will mount up to the older flywheel I can make it work. I'm just throwing the idea around at the moment.

CamoDeafie
11-26-2010, 07:44 PM
its supposed to be compatible. weren't there a 3400 mated to the F40 a while back?

Sport Omega
11-27-2010, 10:46 PM
I found a post on grandamgt.com that someone installed it into a grand am. But, here's another of my next items wanted. http://mpracing.org/store/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=552 since I need to make up an exhaust system anyway.

CamoDeafie
11-27-2010, 11:07 PM
oh wow; thats actually a rather nice exhaust system!

Sport Omega
11-27-2010, 11:29 PM
It is pretty nice, and if it'll fit the cramped grand am/Alero/Malibu it should fit our A and X bodies.

turbokinetic
11-28-2010, 03:05 AM
So turbok, I did pick up that NOS feedback carb for 50 bucks but have you found your non feedback carb lying around?

I just looked in my old car parts and unfortunately I did not see it. It was at my parent's house, under the house. They had some renovations done and everything got heaped in one area. Lots of stuff is missing.

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you about this - been crazy lately!

Later,
David

sky81
02-13-2011, 01:49 AM
You are putting a 3.4 V6 into an Omega and are coverting it to carburetion?
I'm impressed. Are you using the Rochester Varajet carburetor the Omega would have come with?

Sport Omega
02-13-2011, 03:45 PM
Yes I'm using the Varajet. I picked up a non comp controlled carb and small cap HEI distributor to use so I don't have to try and get the whole feedback system to work. It should be enough to get this car moving. In other news...... I'll finally be getting a lift installed in my garage on Friday. It will sure make the repairs a lot easier, specially when I start cutting and replacing the floorboards and exhaust, and brakes and....... you get the idea.

turbokinetic
02-13-2011, 09:48 PM
Yes I'm using the Varajet. I picked up a non comp controlled carb and small cap HEI distributor to use so I don't have to try and get the whole feedback system to work. It should be enough to get this car moving. In other news...... I'll finally be getting a lift installed in my garage on Friday. It will sure make the repairs a lot easier, specially when I start cutting and replacing the floorboards and exhaust, and brakes and....... you get the idea.

DUDE I would so love to have a lift! That is one thing I plan to invest in, in my new workshop.

You will be happy with the Varajet / small-cap setup. I had that on my 1983 Century T-Type with a 2.8L. It was very respectable. I had to spend time tuning the adjustable metering rod at the carb secondary air valve. It ended up being all the way "rich" for my engine. I had ported and had open exhaust. With your 3.4 you might possibly have to get a different jet or metering rod since a LIGHTLY modded 2.8 took all the fuel the original parts could deliver.

Also I had an advance curve kit for the distributor. It let the advance come on sooner (lower RPM) and helped all aspects of the engine (power, response, and fuel use).

Later,
David

LordDurock
02-15-2011, 04:15 PM
DUDE I would so love to have a lift! That is one thing I plan to invest in, in my new workshop.

You will be happy with the Varajet / small-cap setup. I had that on my 1983 Century T-Type with a 2.8L. It was very respectable. I had to spend time tuning the adjustable metering rod at the carb secondary air valve. It ended up being all the way "rich" for my engine. I had ported and had open exhaust. With your 3.4 you might possibly have to get a different jet or metering rod since a LIGHTLY modded 2.8 took all the fuel the original parts could deliver.

Also I had an advance curve kit for the distributor. It let the advance come on sooner (lower RPM) and helped all aspects of the engine (power, response, and fuel use).

Later,
David

david look around on craglist or ebay. they show up every now and then when shops close. i have a nice 2 post but my father has not taken the time to lay a conret pad for one.

Sport Omega
03-09-2011, 12:56 AM
MY LIFT IS IN!!!!!!!!! It's nice just for waxing the car too. Anyway, Im off next week. First I have to do tile in the family room before I get to play in the garage. After that I'll put the Omega up on the lift and start fixing the floor among other things.

Century7667
03-09-2011, 11:49 AM
Lift? As in car lift?

Ken T.

Sport Omega
03-11-2011, 01:44 AM
Yes I had a 2 post installed in my garage.

Century7667
03-15-2011, 05:34 PM
Nice! Here in Houston, the ground is so soft, I bet it wouldn't work so well, or it would be really expensive to install.

Sport Omega
03-20-2011, 04:05 AM
I spent a little "me" time yesterday and went to a small yard near St. Cloud yesterday that listed an 81 Omega. It was of course a 4 door, but it hads so many good parts to take I have to go back for more. It was well cared for until something must've happened to it to send it to the scrap. It's Met. blue with the medium dark blue velour Brougham cloth interior. Even the drivers seat is absolutely perfect. For me It's too bad I can't use them, because the front seats won't work in a 2 door-the seat backs don't tilt forward. It even had the 81 Omega factory service manual sitting on the back seat so of course I grabbed that. The trunk mat was perfect including the insulation blankets that go with it. I grabbed the tail lights and the rear filler panel as well. Anybody need anything else let me know.

Blueberries
05-11-2011, 12:07 PM
It needed a lot of work where the paint was rubbed off and it also had a hole and a tear. It's going to be about $400 by the time they're finished. I'll just get a couple of side jobs to help pay for it no big deal. I'd rather do some mechanical repairs on other peoples cars to pay for it than try and save money by doing it myself.

Sport Omega
07-04-2011, 06:56 AM
I haven't done much in a while. I've been busy doing the body work on the Charger. Trying to make it For Car Craft here on the 22nd-24th. I have done a little more body work on the Omega at the same time. As you know this car was in a yard for some time and people had walked on it putting some kinks in the roof and ruining the hood/cowl panel as well. I have been working out the roof some with the body hammers and blocks/dollies. It's amazing as you work out the kinks how the metal starts to come back into its original shape. The more you get it straightened out it some of the other parts start popping back up. The roof had a pretty good dip in the middle that didn't want to pop up when I first banged on it with my hand from the underside trying to pop it up. As I've been massaging out the kinks it's coming back into shape on its own. Anyway as far as my Charger is going I finally decided on a color. It's a new Toyota color called Black Forest Pearl.

turbokinetic
07-04-2011, 01:46 PM
... I have done a little more body work on the Omega ... Anyway as far as my Charger is going I finally decided on a color. It's a new Toyota color called Black Forest Pearl.

Thanks for the update! You have a skill I don't have - bodywork. Wish I knew someone here who would I could get to work on my old cars. I've got 2 which need some TLC at the moment. I bet that Charger will look amazing in that color!

Happy 4th of July!
David

SCREECH
07-05-2011, 08:51 PM
...as far as my Charger is going I finally decided on a color. It's a new Toyota color called Black Forest Pearl.
You mean like the HAM??? :) I'm kidding, of course. Couldn't resist. Sorry.

LordDurock
07-05-2011, 09:15 PM
You mean like the HAM??? :) I'm kidding, of course. Couldn't resist. Sorry.
hey black forest is laughing matter!!! ;) it on of my weak spots :)

Sport Omega
07-21-2011, 03:17 AM
The Charger is finally at the body shop, dropped it off on Monday. Cross your fingers!!!! Hoping they will have it painted tomorrow so I can get to Car Craft on Friday. Nothing like cutting it close. I would've had it to the shop the week before but discovering someone elses lovely bondo job on the drivers fender istead of straightening it out first took me a whole day to get worked back into shape with the hammers and dollies. Anyway, it's been suuuuper hot and sticky here the past few days so as much as I wanted to do some ork on the Omega while I'm waiting, NO WAY!!!! It did cool off some this evening so I did weld shut the center trim holes on the replacement hood. Over the weekend I also got the wrinkles worked out of the roof too so It is starting to look better. I also put the replacement drivers door on the work table so I can start working it out as well, getting rid of the trim rivets and welding shut the lower trim holes the Omega doesn't have. I got the door from a Skylark Limited. It's in nice conditon otherwise, it sure has a lot of rustproofing on the inside that's for sure. I hope I can get most f the replacement body parts ready by the end of next week as my vacation comes to an end. I definitely want to get the drivers door swapped out, that butchered up thing is hideous the way they cut pieces off and it's all bent up.

turbokinetic
07-21-2011, 12:23 PM
Glad to see an update! Yeah, there are so many "body men" out there who are just "bondo men." Likely they don't own a dolly, and possibly use a 15/16" wrench for a hammer!
From my experience, it appears the cars in the late 80's had more and more rustproofing/ sound deadening material in the doors.
It's been very hot down South, too. I've been working on an EFI re-tuning project that is not going so well because the engine has many damaged parts. But every day it is VERY hot out here and makes it more frustrating.

Sport Omega
07-21-2011, 10:14 PM
The shop called me this mornig, won't be ready until Tuesday. Oh well, I knew I was cutting it close. If it weren't for that bondo job on the fender I would've made it. I'm running out to the farm and tet the Lesabre Turbo Coupe so I'll take that to the show. Hopefully I will be able to sell it.

Sport Omega
01-05-2012, 01:56 AM
I have it in the garage and I'm ready o get to the floors. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3341573/1981-oldsmobile-omega/page-7

Century7667
01-05-2012, 04:50 PM
It's coming right along! Are you going to fibre glass over it, or put in some new steel?

Ken T.

turbokinetic
01-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Glad to see you making progress on this. Yes the floors do indeed look like swiss-cheese! I have a feeling you'll be able to find a floorboard from a similar size car at the JY and have what you need. That, or use some new metal and fabricate what's needed!

Sport Omega
01-05-2012, 06:17 PM
I found a car in the yard to take the floor from.

Sport Omega
01-18-2012, 01:33 AM
http://cardomain.com/ride/3341573/1981-oldsmobile-omega/page-8#15530280 I hope this pic works

turbokinetic
01-18-2012, 01:36 AM
http://cardomain.com/ride/3341573/1981-oldsmobile-omega/page-8#15530280 I hope this pic works

nope no work :(

turbokinetic
01-18-2012, 01:37 AM
Went to your Cardomain page, and that looks good. That donor car must not have had any rust and good door seals.

Sport Omega
01-19-2012, 02:48 AM
Oh no, the donor wasn't perfect. I'll have to make some of the drivers section by hand. I did have a fab shop bend me up a piece that runs along the outer edge of the floor pan where it's welded to the rockers. It's basically a U channel.From the underside it's the section of the floor that you see your either the brake or fuel lines run depending on which side you're looking at. The drivers side has the brake lines. Hopefully I can finish that this weekend.

Sport Omega
01-20-2012, 02:28 AM
This came up on the 60V6 site. My head is just trying to brainstorm this right now. Hmmmm........ http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthread.php/48839-Fageol-Supercharger-and-manifolds-amp-carb I said I wanted to keep it old school, damn that would just rock!

turbokinetic
01-20-2012, 01:12 PM
Yes that would indeed rock! It should have lots of low-end grunt being a positive-displacement blower.

If I remember correctly - the reason that guy is having a hard time selling it is because others have come up before, and the people had a hard time making them work. If I remember, the belt setup is very tricky and you need an afternarket ignition to keep detonation at bay.

Not trying to discourage you! Just want to toss that out there.

Sincerely,
David

Sport Omega
02-04-2012, 03:19 AM
Well, I suppose I'll pass on the supercharger but while I was at a yard near St. Cloud getting some stuff off the Omega they had I noticed they had gotten in an AWD 6000SE. The engine/trans are gone but the driveshaft on back is still in the car. So I've decided to head up tomorrow and get the AWD stuff. Does anyone have a technical archive type exploded view of the transmission and the transfer case from the AWD system. I really would like to get a view of how it was setup since it is missing from this car.

white89euro
10-24-2012, 03:33 AM
No updates since February? What's new? I saw only thru May 6 at the cardomain.com site - more news?
George

Century
02-04-2013, 02:59 PM
I'd like to see more on this as well. What kind of HP and torque can a 3400 put out?

Sport Omega
03-25-2013, 06:41 PM
Sorry, really haven't done anything in a while. I had hernea surgery last Thursday so hopefully in a few days I can do a bit. Selling the Turismo so the money from that will be going towards the bodyshop for the Omega. Other thoughts have been running through my head as far as engine/tranny. A guy on LS1tech.com is doing a Fiero with the front drive Impala SS LS4 V8 & the F40 Pont. G6 6 speed. so my brain is buzzing. i can actually grab one of these engines for $800 so.........I'll let you know. Of course I'll have to see if there's any interest in an iron head built 3400 for anyone that wants to do a quick upgrade from the 2.8.

turbokinetic
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
Sorry, really haven't done anything in a while. I had hernea surgery last Thursday so hopefully in a few days I can do a bit....

Yikes! Hope you're feeling well soon.


Selling the Turismo so the money from that will be going towards the bodyshop for the Omega. Other thoughts have been running through my head as far as engine/tranny. A guy on LS1tech.com is doing a Fiero with the front drive Impala SS LS4 V8 & the F40 Pont. G6 6 speed. so my brain is buzzing. i can actually grab one of these engines for $800 so.........I'll let you know.

That would be great project to see come together. An LS4 / 6-speed Omega would rule the highway!

Thanks for the update!
David

Century
04-01-2013, 12:33 AM
Feel better. Regardless of some sort of LS or 3L, this is bound to be the coolest FWD X body.

The Mad Hatter
04-17-2013, 12:30 PM
Of course I'll have to see if there's any interest in an iron head built 3400 for anyone that wants to do a quick upgrade from the 2.8.

Hope youre feeling better man. Been following your build up, saw this in your last post. Whats the deal on the "built 3400", just out of curiosity? I might be going in a different direction with one of my projects...

Sport Omega
04-29-2013, 02:09 PM
The 3400 originally has the aluminum heads so switching to the iron heads requires the pistons from a Camaro/Firebird 3.4. Basically it is a fairly easy upgrade if you have an injected iron head 2.8. It has the carb intake on it now which needed some modification to clear the roller lifter retainers. Nothing real fancy, but definitely help a bit in the horsepower department. I did get myself the 6 speed tranny last week so now I am researching the Saab 9-3 transfer case which supposedly bolts to the F40. AWD is in the works. So the AWD 6000 trans/transfer case I have I no longer need. It only has 54K miles on it but since it has been on the shelf for so long I would at least get a paper&seal kit for the tranny. Know anybody who would want it? I suppose $200 would be enough.

Sport Omega
05-09-2013, 04:10 PM
Went to upull yesterday. I still needed a drivers seat track because mine was rusted off at the end bolted to the floor. Found a Ciera wagon with same color interior to get the track from, wasn't exactly the same but close enough. I just had to drill one new hole to tack a new stud in the floor about an inch to the right of the other one, no big deal. I had grabbed seats from an Achieva a while back because they were in nice condition & are the same width for the rear. Find 81 Omega buckets in the dark maroon, not gonna happen. Anyway the Achieva seats were grey so I figured getting creative with burgandy dye would work. Turned out very nice. I also scored the carpet from the Ciera. It was nasty but for 7 dollars it was worth a try to clean it up. It looks like new after getting all the sand and dirt/grime washed out of it. The interior is starting to look really nice. Cleaned up & dye the replacement dash yesterday too. That will have to wait until I repair the rust around the windshield first before I put that in.

turbokinetic
05-09-2013, 08:19 PM
Thanks for the updates! It is amazing how well the GM carpets clean up. Nothing that a little pressure washer and soap can't fix!

Sport Omega
05-09-2013, 09:57 PM
Yeah, nothing like oem carpet. I have carpet from ACC in my Charger and I can say that the replacement stuff is crap compared to original stuff. That original carpet is HEAVY.

Sport Omega
05-12-2013, 02:53 AM
I spent all day cutting out and welding in patches around the windshield channel so that's done. Maybe I can ge the new dash installed tomorrow before the wife gets up tomorrow. Not sure if I want to tackle the task of putting in the new windshield or if I should have someone come and do it. I'll call around to see what someone will charge just to put the new one in. It's all cleaned up so that is all they have to do so it shouldn't cost too much.

turbokinetic
05-12-2013, 03:18 AM
I've never tried to do a windsheild myself. Every time I have one done, there are at least 2 guys working on it to set it in, precisely in the correct position, the first time, on the sealant. It can be a horrible mess if things go wrong!

babyivan
05-12-2013, 03:35 AM
I've never tried to do a windsheild myself. Every time I have one done, there are at least 2 guys working on it to set it in, precisely in the correct position, the first time, on the sealant. It can be a horrible mess if things go wrong!

So true! Doing a windshield takes at least two people.

Sport Omega
05-12-2013, 02:25 PM
Yeah, spending a few bucks to pay a pro to do it I think is best since I got the brand new oone a couple years ago for $50.

white89euro
05-17-2013, 01:37 AM
Great to see progress being made on this project. Any new pics?
George

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3341573/1981-oldsmobile-omega/page-9/

Just edited this post because I found the new pics. Nice work! So what kind of spray dye did you use? Does is soak in to the fabric?

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/14/58/16204185_medium.jpg

Sport Omega
05-18-2013, 12:36 AM
It's the Duplicolor vinyl/fabric die. You have to use enough of it on fabric. It takes 1 can for each half of the seat. After about 10 minutes start using a brush and just keep brushing the fabric so that it doesn't get stiff. Sure it's not going to be as soft as it originally was but over time it will begin to feel better.

Sport Omega
05-18-2013, 04:04 PM
Slept in this morning, heading into garage. Finish swapping out dash, call someone to see if they can get windshield in, button up the motor. Gotta adjust the rocker arms, valve covers, a couple other small things on the engine itself. Then get to making the exhaust. 2 1/2" pipe. Hopefully get the brake lines done too. It'd be nice to get it to fire this weekend.

turbokinetic
05-18-2013, 08:27 PM
... It'd be nice to get it to fire this weekend.

Yes! I know that feeling. One word: Video!!

Sport Omega
05-26-2013, 08:01 PM
Well, change of plans. I ended up finding an LS4 from an 06 Grand Prix GXP so I guess I'm going to just start going full on with the V8 6 speed transplant.

turbokinetic
05-26-2013, 09:15 PM
Well, change of plans. I ended up finding an LS4 from an 06 Grand Prix GXP so I guess I'm going to just start going full on with the V8 6 speed transplant.

That's cool. Can't wait to see it come together!

occupant
05-27-2013, 03:17 PM
If it can be done in a Fiero (and it has, I see you stalking the LS1Tech forums) it can be done in an A/X body.

Definitely would be nice to see a full write up for X/A cars so we know what all it entails. Keep drawings/measurements of anything you have to fabricate (mounts, cooling lines, accessory brackets, air intake piping, etc) so we can replicate. Or when you make a part, make a duplicate spare or ten of it. Then sell swap kits on eBay ;)

Sport Omega
06-03-2013, 02:54 AM
I'm going to 1up the fierguru on LS1tech. I'm going All wheel drive. The transfer unit from the Saab bolts to the 6 speed.

RIPBARNBURNER
06-03-2013, 01:22 PM
Now THAT is what I'M talkin' bout! Best of luck with the new plans, I will be waiting to see how it turns out.

occupant
06-03-2013, 07:11 PM
You should get the other 81 Sport Omega being discussed on here. If not the perfect parts car, it would let you build two cars, one AWD, one FWD, that way you can still drive one while you get the AWD system worked out. I imagine the fuel tank will be your biggest obstacle, and a fuel cell in the trunk is the easiest if not the neatest solution.

Sport Omega
06-07-2013, 12:29 AM
If I had the time to run and get it I would. My son is 17, he's talked about getting his license but not in a hurry. Of course it's probably not the kind of car he'd really want though. Anyway, I cut the bottom of the pass. door frame off last night and took it to a sheetmetal shop so they could bend me up a new piece to repair it. The door skin is excellent, just gotta fix the bottom of the shell so I peeled back the bottom lip and cut off the crusty bottom. Hopefully I can finish that up this weekend.

Sport Omega
06-10-2013, 04:24 AM
I decided to start repairing the rusty spots of the quarters myself. After selling the turismo I was going to take it to the bodyshop to let them do it but I guess I'd rather put the money into the stuff I need for the awd setup. I should finish the drivers quarter panel this week. Gotta get me some metal set, the can I had was too old. It's good stuff but for some reason the shelf life is not like the regular polyester filler(bondo).

JoshB
07-13-2013, 01:20 AM
Sport Omega,
Could you do a little write up with some picutures of the upgraded 6000 rear end under your Charger. My current dream (dont worry they change quickly) is rwd A-Body Century and this may play a big part.

Thanks Josh

Sport Omega
07-17-2013, 08:10 PM
I'll be honest if I was to do it again I'd use a rear suspension from a Miata. I'ts pretty well a self contained cradle with an upper/lower control arm setup that lends itself well to mounting underneath a vehicle. The mounting points are flat so no real brain surgery in trying to figure out how much this hole is higher or lower than the other ones. Just 4 mount points that once you get everything square & at the desired installed height much easier than the 6000 strut style rear suspension. There is a compant out there that makes cv shafts/mounts so you can put the Ford 8.8 IRS carrier in the Miata suspension.