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CamoDeafie
12-11-2010, 07:07 PM
picked this set up for $40 for all 4; they had snow tires on but those got sold; so the guy sold the wheels to me :D

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/cars/DSCN2523.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/cars/DSCN2524.jpg

here is a pic of what they're supposed to look like with center caps and trim rings; saved from the brochure site and uploaded to Potobucket;

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/cars/4Omega80.jpg

and what the current wheels on Maxine looks like

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/cars/DSCN2498.jpg

am not sure how the center caps fit onto these wheels, there are 3 equidistant bumps on the inside edge of the "bowl" surrounding the bolt hub that may be for the center caps to fit on...I am used to a similar system on the outside edge of RWD cars with dog-dishes...I take it these are the only FWD wheels that had such "dog-dish" styled center caps other than the PT cruiser wheels?

SilentWing
12-11-2010, 10:02 PM
Those look really sharp on Maxine, I'm glad you found wheels you like too... and for a really good price.

white89euro
12-13-2010, 02:42 AM
Nice find on those wheels. Imagine - 30 years old.

I like the ad pics two. Somehow the ad comes off as segregated - one Omega for white people and one Omega for black people. Kind of strange.

George

CamoDeafie
12-13-2010, 03:29 AM
actualy if you look at the series of brochure pages for the 1980 Omega, you will also see a porn-stache'd polo shirt wearing guy next to the Omega SX coupe and a few other oddities; what Olds was trying to say that the 4 door is great for a growing family in an urban lifestyle, that the ordinary coupe is great for the female college student/photographer, and the SX is awesome for the high school porn stars......... I'm still debating on whether i want the dark brown color or the light brown color for the wheels to be powdercoated so that they will look like they belong on Maxine.

sky81
02-13-2011, 02:41 AM
I hate to say this, but this isn't going to work.

The wheels you got are standard issue X body wheels, with the 6 rectangular slot rims. They usually have wheel covers over them so you wouldn't know they all have 6 rectangular slots like that.
The center caps are what make them sportier in the case of the Omega coupe pictured above.

The problem is that the X body cars all had 13 inch wheels. The A body cars all had 14 inch wheels.
X body wheels aren't interchangeable with A body wheels for this reason.

The other problem is that the three center bumps you mention is what the hubcap snaps onto.
The A body wheels don't have those, so they won't attach to the wheels.
I don't think there were any A body cars that were issued with hubcaps.

True hubcaps, which is what the Omega coupe in the photo above has- were going the way of the dinosaur during this time period.
After this, pretty much all cars had wheel covers, until alloy wheels became commonplace in the 90s.

Sorry, don't mean to be a killjoy- it's a cool idea.
But I think you're going to have to try something else.

What you might want to do is get a set of wheels off an 85 or an 86 Cutlass Ciera GT.
They were painted body color, so you'd have to paint them to match your car- but they look really nice.

Actually many Oldsmobile models could have been ordered with steel road wheels in the 80s. The Cutlass Supreme sedan and coupe come to mind.
The bolt pattern might be different on those sin those are rear wheel drive cars.

CamoDeafie
03-15-2011, 10:19 AM
SKy81; according to my door stickers; Maxine's tires are 185/80/R13s....you're telling me no A-cars had 13" wheels when Maxine and 1982-1984 A-cars had 13"s as standard until 1985? also; build sheet mention 13 inch wheels s well, ordered with the car, October 1982 by the original dealer down in SF bay area.

and yes i checked the physical tires; they;re also 185/80/R13s...am thinking to have someone here order the Omega center caps off of Ebay for me, and I pay back somehow; and find the best deals for changing tires/wheels locally.. think i'll stick with black for now

Prospeeder
03-15-2011, 02:38 PM
13s are definatly possible on an Abody, maybe only the JA1, but still possible. Soo you have those wheels, do you have all the caps for them then too?? Might be a pretty difficult find

CamoDeafie
03-15-2011, 07:29 PM
dont have caps, but theres a complete set of the centers on ebay for 30 plus shipping;

Prospeeder
03-16-2011, 06:49 PM
get them lol you may not find another complete set that cheap

CamoDeafie
03-16-2011, 08:03 PM
I dont have an ebay acct due to some credit drama a while back with paypal....how bout ya buy them then I pay ya back +something? :)

CamoDeafie
04-02-2011, 11:17 PM
UPDATE! they fit Maxine lol; so X body wheels are definitely possible on JA1 A-body cars!

what one wheel looks like complete; and this is the worst condition one...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/CamoDeafie/cars/1983%20Oldsmobile%20Cutlass%20Ciera%20Brougham%20C oupe/DSCN2683.jpg

sky81
05-16-2011, 11:09 PM
SKy81; according to my door stickers; Maxine's tires are 185/80/R13s....you're telling me no A-cars had 13" wheels when Maxine and 1982-1984 A-cars had 13"s as standard until 1985? also; build sheet mention 13 inch wheels s well, ordered with the car, October 1982 by the original dealer down in SF bay area.

and yes i checked the physical tires; they;re also 185/80/R13s...am thinking to have someone here order the Omega center caps off of Ebay for me, and I pay back somehow; and find the best deals for changing tires/wheels locally.. think i'll stick with black for now

That is something I did not know.
I thought all of the A body cars had 14 inch wheels from the start of the run.

sky81
05-16-2011, 11:09 PM
That is something I did not know.
I thought all of the A body cars had 14 inch wheels from the start of the run.

I'm glad this worked for you. They do look nice on your car!

lackneramanda
01-10-2012, 03:47 AM
I hate to say this, but this isn't going to work.

The wheels you got are standard issue X body wheels, with the 6 rectangular slot rims. They usually have wheel covers (http://www.carparts.com/Wheel-Covers-Simulators-Hubcaps/600022885.car) over them so you wouldn't know they all have 6 rectangular slots like that.
The center caps are what make them sportier in the case of the Omega coupe pictured above.

The problem is that the X body cars all had 13 inch wheels. The A body cars all had 14 inch wheels.
X body wheels aren't interchangeable with A body wheels for this reason.

The other problem is that the three center bumps you mention is what the hubcap snaps onto.
The A body wheels don't have those, so they won't attach to the wheels.
I don't think there were any A body cars that were issued with hubcaps.

True hubcaps, which is what the Omega coupe in the photo above has- were going the way of the dinosaur during this time period.
After this, pretty much all cars had wheel covers, until alloy wheels became commonplace in the 90s.

Sorry, don't mean to be a killjoy- it's a cool idea.
But I think you're going to have to try something else.

What you might want to do is get a set of wheels off an 85 or an 86 Cutlass Ciera GT.
They were painted body color, so you'd have to paint them to match your car- but they look really nice.

Actually many Oldsmobile models could have been ordered with steel road wheels in the 80s. The Cutlass Supreme sedan and coupe come to mind.
The bolt pattern might be different on those sin those are rear wheel drive cars.

I think I may have solved my problems with the full moon wheel covers I installed months ago.

The front right (especially) had the disconcerting habit of rotating on the wheel to the point of bending the valve stem. One of the other four would do this also and when I swapped wheel covers around, it did not seem to matter- the front right still needed to be removed and remounted often. They were clearly on well and holding tight, but rotated forward.
As I searched on line, I found that this was not unusual and that the ticking/ clicking sound that I heard was also a wheel cover phenomena. Did you know that a car's steel wheel actually deforms as it rotates (picture the behavior of the rubber tire)? Apparently this deformation walks the wheel cover around.

After trying a wrap of rubber foam weather stripping around the outside of the wheel cover fingers and putting rubber grommets in the valve stem holes (no success), I bought some 3M brand non-slip stair (ladder) tread tape and ran some of this 1" wide tape around the inner wheel circumference where the moon cover fingers grasp. The tape is like coarse sand paper and has good adhesion.

Best I can tell, so far, this has stopped the rotation and the ticking noise.