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Tuddi
02-01-2008, 10:02 AM
Ok, not totally, because I listen to this in my a-body car. :)

When I was introduced to this song a couple of days ago, I thougth: WOW... where have I been?

I love the Blues, I love good old rock and other FROM THE HEART music... while I can't stand new age, punk, metal etc. etc. etc. I have worked as a studio technician and consider music as ART, and I listen to every little shadow that is made in the music. Needless to say (but I will say it anyways): Music has become a mass produced crap, made for the current situation of "taste". Meaning: Music of the past couple of decades has offered all BUT music.

Listen to Epica. A Dutch band (from Holland). Here are the lyrics for the song I will link you to on Youtube. Lyrics are needed in order to get the meaning.... due to the operaic/deathmetallic style.

Don't let those last words of mine scare you away... just listen and learn. Very interesting mixture.

Tile :Epica - Cry for the moon

Follow your common sense
You cannot hide yourself
Behind a fairytale forever and ever
Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever
Forever and ever

Indoctrinated minds so very often
Contain sick thoughts
And commit most of the evil they preach against

Don’t try to convince me with messengers from god
You accuse us of sins committed by yourselves
It’s easy to condemn without looking in the mirror
Behind the scenes opens reality

Eternal silence cries out for justice
Forgiveness is not for sale
Nor is the will to forget

Follow your common sense
You cannot hide yourself
Behind a fairytale forever and ever
Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever

Virginity has been stolen at very young ages
And the extinguisher loses its immunity
Morbid abuse of power in the garden of eden
Where the apple gets a youthful face

Eternal silence cries out for justice
Forgiveness is not for sale
Nor is the will to forget

Follow your common sense
You cannot hide yourself
Behind a fairytale forever and ever
Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever
Forever and ever

Eternal silence cries out for justice
Forgiveness is not for sale
Nor is the will to forget

You can’t go on hiding yourself
Behind old fashioned fairytales
And keep washing your hands in innocence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dys1_TuUmI4


Let me know if you think I am totally nuts, or if this is something you might want to hear again.

Gothic Rock... I'm listening!

SexySilhouette
02-01-2008, 07:12 PM
Blues man here as well. I'm a HUGE fan of Candye Kane. So much so, that if I weren't married, I'd become her bass player (and anything else she wants me to be LOL!).

Zaloryan
02-01-2008, 08:46 PM
Great song, I love it already! Guess I'll be looking for some Epica at Best Buy...

a1veedubber
02-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Music has become a mass produced crap, made for the current situation of "taste". Meaning: Music of the past couple of decades has offered all BUT music.


I totally agree with this. My brothers and I call it "Big Mac, Large Fry" music!

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-02-2008, 05:51 AM
Blues man here as well.


Someone with a "degenerate record collector's disease," with the "boogie woogie flu (http://boogiewoogieflu.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html)," has put together a small collection of much older tunes. Click on the date listings (Archive) for more...some of the mp3 links are not available anymore.

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-02-2008, 06:12 AM
Let me know if you think....


This song of Epica has interesting operatic elements, but after sampling a few other tunes, it appears there is a wider performance variation, which is a shade outside of my interest.

If you go back in time, Jethro Tull, The Who:Tommy, and others had similar themes as in this cut of Epica.

On a different note...many songs have addressed aspects of their theme...even in C&W: HARPER VALLEY PTA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4-2qMErgM) of the 1970s.

LordDurock
02-02-2008, 05:34 PM
i think is problem can be summed up in this one phrase. "i want to play like so and so"

i was just listing to foreigner and like every great band I've heard. there albums arint just rock they have many elements of other styles of the time or the past. foreigner's song have lots of funk themes and styles molded into a rocky style. along with other themes of the time like "chunky" guitar.

even Ozzie took elements form other styles. to make a hole song. i think what we have forgotten its that the vocalist it like a insermtent as well. he/she must sink with the bands "music" and the band must sink with the lyrics theme. all working together to give you a the "Felling" of the words.

that my rant.

for all who care this what i've played. not the greats but what ever Genuine Imitation (http://www.myspace.com/genuineimitation1)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-02-2008, 08:29 PM
albums arint just rock they have many elements of other styles of the time or the past

One has to remember, most all involved are Capitalists...looking to increase the revenue stream.

Early Beatles were searching, here they took this tune,

Arthur Alexander - Anna - 1962 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihsfVEFvrxA),

and cut their own,


Early Beatles - Anna (Go To Him) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2v0rBbGx1c&feature=related)


Yes...they were searching for a hit- performance theme..in those days. Below, they took a song written via Consuelo Velázquez, who wrote at near 16 this song in 1940. The drummer on this Beatles song was Pete Best, and some have considered him to be a better drummer than Ringo.

"Besame Mucho" by The Beatles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqO47zlvao&feature=related)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-02-2008, 08:35 PM
vocalist...sink with the bands "music" and the band must sink with the lyrics theme. all working together to give you a the "Felling" of the words.


Generally true...but vocalist(s) are not always required...

"Green Onions" by Booker T on Hollywood a Go Go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDKZ7PERDk)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-03-2008, 03:07 AM
Let me know if you think I am totally nuts... I'm listening!

"Put A Lid On It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdAt4qWvz_8)"

Tuddi
02-03-2008, 04:19 AM
"Put A Lid On It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdAt4qWvz_8)"

Now THAT's the kind of music I don't have to learn from the start. It's already in my blood! :)

Some of my all time favorites include Billie Holiday, Screaming J. Hawkins, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Etta James (oh Etta, why did I not put type you up first?) and a whole lot of others more and less known artists... and of course Robert Johnson can't be left out.

... and Muddy Waters... and Albert King... and .... etc. etc. etc.

Swing, Dixie and LOTS of Jazz ... it's all music with FEELINGS embedded. LIVE and LIVING music.

Tuddi
02-03-2008, 05:52 AM
My daughter just became 1 year old on first of February, and here is a little video I put on Youtube with her eating her cake..... music by the same Epica I started this thread with....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqB2Ww0LBY

SexySilhouette
02-03-2008, 05:57 AM
Now THAT's the kind of music I don't have to learn from the start. It's already in my blood! :)

Some of my all time favorites include Billie Holiday, Screaming J. Hawkins, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Etta James (oh Etta, why did I not put type you up first?) and a whole lot of others more and less known artists... and of course Robert Johnson can't be left out.

... and Muddy Waters... and Albert King... and .... etc. etc. etc.

Swing, Dixie and LOTS of Jazz ... it's all music with FEELINGS embedded. LIVE and LIVING music.

You sir, have excellent taste.

Candye Kane; Jill Sharpe; Muddy Waters; Sonny Leonard Blues Band & Colin Dussault are in my car's CD player right now...

Hey, you ever seen an Irish movie called "The Commitments"?

Slacker
02-03-2008, 06:41 AM
Blues man also myself.

Actually, this week I'm joining up with a Jazz band I hope to be a permanent part of. (I'm a bassist, electric and double). I love jazz too. You got some taste there. :-P

Tuddi
02-03-2008, 10:36 AM
Hey, you ever seen an Irish movie called "The Commitments"?

The very day it was out, I saw it. It was a great movie.... "Mustang Sally" had seldomly been performed that well earlier.... lots of good scenes.

Give me MUSIC, and I'll applaud it... feed me porkfeed.... and I'll tell you what taste it is.

Zaloryan
02-03-2008, 11:57 PM
Give me MUSIC, and I'll applaud it... feed me porkfeed.... and I'll tell you what taste it is.

Okay... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gVVGD7j3E

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-10-2008, 03:59 AM
Now THAT's the kind of music I don't have to learn from the start.


Here's some jamming Flamenco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjJIVXfuEg) with Al Di Meola and Roman Miroshnichenko

Tuddi
02-10-2008, 04:48 AM
Here's some jamming Flamenco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjJIVXfuEg) with Al Di Meola and Roman Miroshnichenko

That was beautifully played! Quite a few steps away from Joe Satriani, but it's so different, that it can't be compared.

Thank you for bringing it up!

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-10-2008, 07:39 PM
That was beautifully played!...

Younger generation may not appreciate guitar playing skills, but here is another video with some fine "picking skills."

Chingon - Malaguena Salerosa
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyp8Us-ixkk)

Tuddi
02-10-2008, 09:25 PM
Great taste in music you have.... at least as far as I have been able to hear until now.

Younger generations... well... some do apreciate what is good, most wouldn't be able to tell the difference between real music and a McDonalds tv-jingle.

Sad but true.

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-11-2008, 07:33 PM
well... some do apreciate what is good


Way back in time:

Mississippi John Hurt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRxA8gR7bw)

1960s
Jr. Walker & The All Stars - Shotgun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEYkjKkMLGg)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-11-2008, 07:37 PM
Rare video of Canned Heat playing live their song "On The Road Again". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrljWGIHB7c&feature=user) This was in early 1970 of their European tour.

Tuddi
02-12-2008, 04:14 AM
That's music. Mississippi John Hurt was unknown to me... what a player!!!

I am totally :Owned:

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-12-2008, 04:32 AM
George Thorogood's Bad to the Bone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V3GODEZRBs)

PACO DE LUCIA , John McLaughlin , AL DI MEOLA (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9cadbYIzhqQ)

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-12-2008, 04:38 AM
Mississippi John Hurt was unknown to me... what a player!

Mississippi John Hurt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_John_Hurt)


Raised in Avalon, Mississippi, he learned to play guitar at age 9. He spent much of his youth playing old time music for friends and dances, earning a living as a farm hand into the 1920s.
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After the commercial failure of the resulting disc and OKeh records going out of business during the depression, Hurt returned to Avalon and obscurity working as a sharecropper and playing local parties and dances.
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In 1963, however, a folk musicologist named Tom Hoskins, inspired by the recordings, was able to locate[2] John Hurt near Avalon, Mississippi.... Seeing that Hurt's guitar playing skills were still intact, Hoskins encouraged him to move to Washington, DC, and begin performing on a wider stage. Whereas his first releases had coincided with the Great Depression, his new career could hardly have been better timed. A stellar performance at the 1963 Newport Folk Festival saw his star rise amongst the new "folk revival" audience, and before his death in 1966 he played extensively in colleges, concert halls, coffee houses and even the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, as well as recording three further albums for Vanguard Records.

John Hurt's influence spans several music genres including blues, country, bluegrass, folk and contemporary rock and roll. A soft-spoken man, his nature was reflected in the work, which remained a mellow mix of country, blues and old time music to the end.

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Music of the sixties, but its interesting to see how this song got better with time, over forty years.


Eric Burdon and the Animals: 1966
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=6i9di9YpLkc&feature=related)


Eric Burdon and the Animals; 2005 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9K23c_7xxZI&feature=related)

notsoslimshady76
02-14-2008, 03:05 AM
I love the animals!

85_Ciera_Rebuild
02-15-2008, 06:49 AM
I love the animals!

Before you time, but here is some rockabilly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJaBcIcD5ao&feature=related).

and some early Rock & Roll: The Bell Notes - I've Had It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6VFp2Sad-g)