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Techfizzle
04-03-2008, 04:12 AM
Has anyone ever put a small trialer hitch on a a-body if so how hard is it?

Pontiac6ksteawd
04-03-2008, 06:01 AM
Its pretty simple actually. The problem will be how much rust you have on your undercarriage, by the rear bumper. If you have any, I don't recommend it. Also, with a 2.5, I really don't recommend it.

Techfizzle
04-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Im not talking some huge trailer. I jsut want to put a little metal plate that clips on the trialer hitch. People use them for deer but I will use it for a push mower. About 3 foot by 4 foot

LordDurock
04-03-2008, 03:35 PM
go for it. i was thinking of that as well but i have a small trailor.

Techfizzle
04-03-2008, 03:52 PM
This is what Im am talking about. But a little bigger. When I move to co. I plan on getting a little egg camper to live in temporaly and to keep my stuff in.

Techfizzle
04-03-2008, 03:52 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/vdh6km.jpg

dcjredline
04-03-2008, 05:07 PM
I actually have an A-body hitch in my basement with a ball and everything on it. I would let it go for $15 + shipping. Thats what I bought it for.

LordDurock
04-03-2008, 06:20 PM
I actually have an A-body hitch in my basement with a ball and everything on it. I would let it go for $15 + shipping. Thats what I bought it for.

were did you get it dj i be woundering.

dcjredline
04-04-2008, 02:19 PM
eBay

white89euro
04-09-2008, 04:59 AM
Check out eBay #130212349410. It'll work on your Ciera or a Celebrity

George

Zaloryan
04-10-2008, 03:42 AM
Check out eBay #130212349410. It'll work on your Ciera or a Celebrity

George

Thanks Euro. :)

jhnharvy773
05-24-2011, 03:05 AM
I am planning to buy a small trailer to tow behind my car. I'm looking for suggestions on where to get a trailer, where to get the hitch and how to connect the hitch without doing any damage to the car.


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Pontiac6ksteawd
05-25-2011, 02:04 AM
I dont know what kinda car you have, but wagons I beleive take a diferent hitch that coupes/sedans.

The hitch? ebay, junk yard, U-Haul..

Trailer? Harbor Freight, Ebay, Craigslist, newpaper.

mechanizeddeath
06-04-2011, 08:32 PM
Does anyone know how much weight one could pull? I have a 3100.

CamoDeafie
06-05-2011, 02:35 AM
I believe no mroe than 1,000 pounds over the curb weight; and possibly tongue weight of maybe 500-900 pounds; depending on the trans and cooling systems?

weroberts
06-06-2011, 01:08 AM
Wagons are rated at 2000 pounds, cars are 1000. my wagon hauls nice.

CamoDeafie
06-06-2011, 01:20 AM
really. my 93 buick century overheated and blew an intake gasket going uphill with 1,000 pounds of stuff plus me and it was without a trailer...had the 3300 and 4 speed o.O

Century7667
06-06-2011, 04:49 PM
really. my 93 buick century overheated and blew an intake gasket going uphill with 1,000 pounds of stuff plus me and it was without a trailer...had the 3300 and 4 speed o.O

Wow. A *Buick* V6 blowing a gasket? Surely not!

CamoDeafie
06-06-2011, 05:01 PM
i've got the pictures and thread to prove it :) lol.

Century7667
06-07-2011, 05:08 PM
Wow. I've always heard how overbuilt those motors were. They never saw service in trucks like the 60 degree V6's did. I guess if not for the LIM the 60 degree would be pretty bullet proof.

Ken T.

mechanizeddeath
06-09-2011, 08:04 PM
Yeah I have the 3100 and a 4T65E. I haven't begun pulling anything yet, but in a year or two I might want to pull an ATV on a small trailer. That's definitely below 1000 pounds though.

Most I ever transported in any non-truck vehicle was 2000 lbs of crushed marble in my Outback. It did alright, and I drove the car for another 75k or so before I lost reverse on the transmission, something that was very common on that model.

Century7667
06-10-2011, 12:00 PM
Keeping it all cool, is key. If the tranny is cool and the engine is cool, you've got a chance.

Ken T.

Jr's3800
06-10-2011, 05:02 PM
That I agree with... Keeping it cool is a huge factor... Being that my van is like an a body on several levels I will pipe in... But this is on a different scale... I found old literature on the van that stated the 4T60E attached to the 3800 V6 was rated for 3000 Lbs... My van is a 95, it has the larger brakes, Calipers among a few other items.. And there were some changes in structure.. I installed a Curtis Hidden hitch( Class II 3500 Lb Rating )... I have pulled as much as 4500 Lbs( only for a couple of miles )... 3800 Low end grunt can be a great thing... But this van came with HD Cooling... The radiator is pretty thick, 1.25" core iirc and dual trans coolers( I added a massive AUX Cooler to this path )...

Cooling does mean everything when towing... I also have a wide mouth performance 180 T stat that flows more than a stock stat, My fan turn on is set for 195 on and 185 Off...

mechanizeddeath
I'd say you can tow, Make sure you brake system is up to snuff... also make sure the cooling system will handle the added strain... The trans needs to stay cool, if you plan to tow get a large cooler on that car... as well to aid you in cooling look for a radiator that has a HD Core for better cooling ability... and with a Wagon i still would not tow more than 2000 Lbs..

mechanizeddeath
06-10-2011, 09:05 PM
Thanks for the info. Do these cars have trans coolers? I'm pretty sure my old Outback had one, but my memory is foggy. As for brakes I'm sure the rear drums are in rough shape but the front brakes were done when I got the car.

Jr's3800
06-11-2011, 12:15 PM
Well, its actually a heat exchanger, not really a true cooler... The heat exchanger is on the cooler side of the radiator... The coolant runs through the radiator and cools to a certain degree and heads back for the block, before it gets there is takes heat away from the trans.. when you are towing the trans can easily see 230F and hotter... so the coolant is being heated on its way back to the engine if that makes sense to you...


Most cars that came from the factory with a tow package had the benefit of having heavy duty cooling.. This aided quite a bit in the cooling capability...

But my thoughts are this, if you plan to tow any distance, at the very least have a good size cooler for the trans... If you have the change get a thick core radiator( 1 - 1.25 " thick )... Both of these will aid you in keep the trans and engine cool...

My 91 Bonneville that was totaled had a 22,000 GVWR Cooler.... The 95 Bonneville has a 28,000 GVWR cooler, been 7 years and still running this cooler... last trans fluid change was almost 4 years ago, fluid is still cherry red..

The 95 Van has a 28,000 GVWR cooler... Kept the trans nice and cool especially with my 195 Fan turn on...

The 95 Bonneville is on its 3rd engine... almost 190,000 Miles... Trans is 100% Original.. Heat is the single largest enemy of a trans... 160F Fluid temp is optimum... 200F is already shortening its life... 230F and its cooking... 260F for any length of time and you might just as well stick a fork in it....lol

Old Gold
07-26-2011, 04:24 AM
I have a 1-1/4" receiver Draw-Tite class-2 hitch on my Celebrity and can happily recommend it. My Dad had it installed by U-Haul (along with a large plate-and-fin transmission cooler) about 15 years ago:

http://www.draw-tite.com/content/products.aspx?lvl=3&parentid=0&catID=1020&part=36103

My Celebrity didn't come with a tow-package from the factory, it does have HD cooling (the big brass and copper radiator).

Although it's seldom used, it's worked great the several times we've needed it. What I like most about it is it's very low profile; it's nearly unnoticeable as it sits under and to the rear of the back bumper. The special raised drawbar it comes with is just the right height for most smaller trailers and the safety-chain attachments are easy to use.

Once in an emergency, we put about 500lbs. worth of gear in a heavy duty 5x10 single axle dirt-trailer that probably weighed 600lbs for a total weight of around 1000lbs. The Celeb handled it just fine, but the stock rear springs were definitely at their limit and I wouldn't have wanted to tow it over any mountain passes with the 2.8 and TH-125, especially with four people in the car...

With the right setup and enough power (I'm thinking a N/A 3800 or more), towing an 1,000lb. trailer with an A-body should be no problem... although electric brakes might be a good investment depending upon where you live...

AVTechMan
08-18-2011, 04:22 PM
My 6000LE wagon when I bought it already has the hitch and ball installed, plus the wiring connector was already in place in the back corner. I have yet to test how well the wagon will pull the trailer but if I had to do that I would only use a light utility trailer, something that you would haul say appliances or riding mowers on. Plus since I have a 4-speed tranny I would use regular D instead of OD since Drive is used anytime something heavy is hauled.

I don't have a tranny cooler though so if I was to tow anything I would need to install a tranny cooler first, to ensure that my tranny would last a long time. It would be nice to install a tranny temp gauge too in order for me to keep an eye on the temp.

lackneramanda
01-24-2012, 02:14 AM
My 6000LE wagon when I bought it already has the hitch and ball installed, plus the wiring connector was already in place in the back corner. I have yet to test how well the wagon will pull the trailer but if I had to do that I would only use a light utility trailer hitches (http://www.carparts.com/Hitches-Towing-Trailers/600022604.car), something that you would haul say appliances or riding mowers on. Plus since I have a 4-speed tranny I would use regular D instead of OD since Drive is used anytime something heavy is hauled.

I don't have a tranny cooler though so if I was to tow anything I would need to install a tranny cooler first, to ensure that my tranny would last a long time. It would be nice to install a tranny temp gauge too in order for me to keep an eye on the temp.

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the trunk of the LR2? I am installing a aftermarket hitch and found a unused plug laying in the trunk that I think was for the factory hitch. I am looking for a way to tap into these wires for the hitch plug.