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    1993 Olds Ciera 3.3L with front end rattle

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    93 Olds Ciera with 132K original miles in excellent overall condition. Especially well maintained.

    Experiencing an intermittent front end (driver side) rattle. Ball joint, tie rod, stabilizer bar, brakes OK. Sounds just like a broken "stabilizer link" which this vehicle does not have. Recent front end alignment. Performance 100% in all regards.

    Any suggestions?

    #2
    Wish I had a suggestion. I fight the front end noises with two of them. This spring, I replaced a bad strut on our '92 and bad inner tie rod ends on the '96, transmission mounts on both, and used a compatible grease on the engine cradle bushings (thought sure I had a bad one), greased the anti-sway bar engine cradle bushings , then aligned. Alignment techs note what great condition the cars are in, no work suggested. No change in my mystery clunks.

    I had been chasing them prior to that too. Thought sure I had a bad strut mount clunking once.
    Last edited by CorvairGeek; 09-13-2020, 01:47 PM.
    Jerry

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      #3
      I have teo that I did chase down for some time ... turns out the steering rack bolt loosen after 25 years before I replaced my rack . As the suspension compressed down and up puts the force on the 2 bolts holding the steering rack u will get a pop or clunk from it as well . Another thing by age is a strut mount on the strut . The ac delco stock strut mount has a rubber insulator between the Strut and plate that wears down and u will get a clunk . The top part of the mount won?t make noise on the body only when the suspension bottoms out or comes up is clunks .

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        #4
        Thanks guys. Will look closer as it is nothing obvious. The sound is intermittent, even over imperfect pavement. The recent line up tech is awesome with the latest equipment, but still test drives. I will keep at it and when successfull will report.

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          #5
          Lots of good ideas posted. It sounds to me like a brake pad rattle. Sometimes the anti rattle clips break and the pads rattle over bumps.
          1989 Celebrity CL 4 door, 3.1 MPFI, 4 speed auto, summer daily driver
          1989 Cutlass Cruiser wagon, 3.1 MPFI, 4 speed auto, special summer ride
          1996 Cherokee XJ 4 door, 4.0, 5 speed, winter daily driver & towing vehicle
          1991 Tracker 2 door, 1.6, 5 speed, needs work
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            #6
            I would suggest finding out why you dont have a front stabilizer. All vehicles were required to have them..

            Then I would be looking at the upper strut bearing plate, cracked spring in the strut, lower ball joint, CV axles, Hub Bearings, front brake heat/dust shield, frame of the car around the strut, lower control arm bushings.
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              #7
              Don't forget to check your wheel bearing also.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Pontiac6ksteawd View Post
                I would suggest finding out why you dont have a front stabilizer. All vehicles were required to have them..
                I think the OP meant that these cars don?t have the stabilizer link. While most cars use the link at the end of the bar, our cars use a stabilizer bushing to contain the end of the bar.
                1989 Celebrity CL 4 door, 3.1 MPFI, 4 speed auto, summer daily driver
                1989 Cutlass Cruiser wagon, 3.1 MPFI, 4 speed auto, special summer ride
                1996 Cherokee XJ 4 door, 4.0, 5 speed, winter daily driver & towing vehicle
                1991 Tracker 2 door, 1.6, 5 speed, needs work
                Previously several Celebritys, 6000s, & 2 U-vans

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                  #9
                  If your lower body panel under the front bumper is loose it will rattle when travelling over bumps and pot holes.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Drop Top Olds View Post
                    If your lower body panel under the front bumper is loose it will rattle when travelling over bumps and pot holes.
                    This is a good recommendation. The Ciera uses some small 'strut rods' that brace the front bumper and prevents it from 'flapping in the wind'. There's one on each side of the front bumper, visible forward of the front tires. I forgot to reinstall one after performing some work once, thinking nothing of it. Once I got on the road I experienced an intermittent rattle/slap due to crosswind/headwinds on the front bumper/fender.

                    You may also want to take a close look at the plastic splash shields within the wheel well to ensure one isn't intermittently dragging on the tie rods during a turn, et cetera...
                    What is this & what does pulling it out do?

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