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    Ok, not totally, because I listen to this in my a-body car.

    When I was introduced to this song a couple of days ago, I thougth: WOW... where have I been?

    I love the Blues, I love good old rock and other FROM THE HEART music... while I can't stand new age, punk, metal etc. etc. etc. I have worked as a studio technician and consider music as ART, and I listen to every little shadow that is made in the music. Needless to say (but I will say it anyways): Music has become a mass produced crap, made for the current situation of "taste". Meaning: Music of the past couple of decades has offered all BUT music.

    Listen to Epica. A Dutch band (from Holland). Here are the lyrics for the song I will link you to on Youtube. Lyrics are needed in order to get the meaning.... due to the operaic/deathmetallic style.

    Don't let those last words of mine scare you away... just listen and learn. Very interesting mixture.

    Tile :Epica - Cry for the moon

    Follow your common sense
    You cannot hide yourself
    Behind a fairytale forever and ever
    Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
    The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever
    Forever and ever

    Indoctrinated minds so very often
    Contain sick thoughts
    And commit most of the evil they preach against

    Don’t try to convince me with messengers from god
    You accuse us of sins committed by yourselves
    It’s easy to condemn without looking in the mirror
    Behind the scenes opens reality

    Eternal silence cries out for justice
    Forgiveness is not for sale
    Nor is the will to forget

    Follow your common sense
    You cannot hide yourself
    Behind a fairytale forever and ever
    Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
    The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever

    Virginity has been stolen at very young ages
    And the extinguisher loses its immunity
    Morbid abuse of power in the garden of eden
    Where the apple gets a youthful face

    Eternal silence cries out for justice
    Forgiveness is not for sale
    Nor is the will to forget

    Follow your common sense
    You cannot hide yourself
    Behind a fairytale forever and ever
    Only by revealing the whole truth can we disclose
    The soul of this sick bulwark forever and ever
    Forever and ever

    Eternal silence cries out for justice
    Forgiveness is not for sale
    Nor is the will to forget

    You can’t go on hiding yourself
    Behind old fashioned fairytales
    And keep washing your hands in innocence

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dys1_TuUmI4


    Let me know if you think I am totally nuts, or if this is something you might want to hear again.

    Gothic Rock... I'm listening!
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    Blues man here as well. I'm a HUGE fan of Candye Kane. So much so, that if I weren't married, I'd become her bass player (and anything else she wants me to be LOL!).
    Jay

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    Great song, I love it already! Guess I'll be looking for some Epica at Best Buy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuddi View Post
    Music has become a mass produced crap, made for the current situation of "taste". Meaning: Music of the past couple of decades has offered all BUT music.

    I totally agree with this. My brothers and I call it "Big Mac, Large Fry" music!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SexySilhouette View Post
    Blues man here as well.
    Someone with a "degenerate record collector's disease," with the "boogie woogie flu," has put together a small collection of much older tunes. Click on the date listings (Archive) for more...some of the mp3 links are not available anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuddi View Post
    Let me know if you think....

    This song of Epica has interesting operatic elements, but after sampling a few other tunes, it appears there is a wider performance variation, which is a shade outside of my interest.

    If you go back in time, Jethro Tull, The Who:Tommy, and others had similar themes as in this cut of Epica.

    On a different note...many songs have addressed aspects of their theme...even in C&W: HARPER VALLEY PTA of the 1970s.

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    i think is problem can be summed up in this one phrase. "i want to play like so and so"

    i was just listing to foreigner and like every great band I've heard. there albums arint just rock they have many elements of other styles of the time or the past. foreigner's song have lots of funk themes and styles molded into a rocky style. along with other themes of the time like "chunky" guitar.

    even Ozzie took elements form other styles. to make a hole song. i think what we have forgotten its that the vocalist it like a insermtent as well. he/she must sink with the bands "music" and the band must sink with the lyrics theme. all working together to give you a the "Felling" of the words.

    that my rant.

    for all who care this what i've played. not the greats but what ever Genuine Imitation

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDurock View Post
    albums arint just rock they have many elements of other styles of the time or the past
    One has to remember, most all involved are Capitalists...looking to increase the revenue stream.

    Early Beatles were searching, here they took this tune,

    Arthur Alexander - Anna - 1962,

    and cut their own,


    Early Beatles - Anna (Go To Him)


    Yes...they were searching for a hit- performance theme..in those days. Below, they took a song written via Consuelo Velázquez, who wrote at near 16 this song in 1940. The drummer on this Beatles song was Pete Best, and some have considered him to be a better drummer than Ringo.

    "Besame Mucho" by The Beatles

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDurock View Post
    vocalist...sink with the bands "music" and the band must sink with the lyrics theme. all working together to give you a the "Felling" of the words.
    Generally true...but vocalist(s) are not always required...

    "Green Onions" by Booker T on Hollywood a Go Go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuddi View Post
    Let me know if you think I am totally nuts... I'm listening!
    "Put A Lid On It"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85_Ciera_Rebuild View Post
    Now THAT's the kind of music I don't have to learn from the start. It's already in my blood!

    Some of my all time favorites include Billie Holiday, Screaming J. Hawkins, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Etta James (oh Etta, why did I not put type you up first?) and a whole lot of others more and less known artists... and of course Robert Johnson can't be left out.

    ... and Muddy Waters... and Albert King... and .... etc. etc. etc.

    Swing, Dixie and LOTS of Jazz ... it's all music with FEELINGS embedded. LIVE and LIVING music.
    Old like good wine...

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    My daughter just became 1 year old on first of February, and here is a little video I put on Youtube with her eating her cake..... music by the same Epica I started this thread with....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqB2Ww0LBY
    Old like good wine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuddi View Post
    Now THAT's the kind of music I don't have to learn from the start. It's already in my blood!

    Some of my all time favorites include Billie Holiday, Screaming J. Hawkins, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Etta James (oh Etta, why did I not put type you up first?) and a whole lot of others more and less known artists... and of course Robert Johnson can't be left out.

    ... and Muddy Waters... and Albert King... and .... etc. etc. etc.

    Swing, Dixie and LOTS of Jazz ... it's all music with FEELINGS embedded. LIVE and LIVING music.
    You sir, have excellent taste.

    Candye Kane; Jill Sharpe; Muddy Waters; Sonny Leonard Blues Band & Colin Dussault are in my car's CD player right now...

    Hey, you ever seen an Irish movie called "The Commitments"?
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    Blues man also myself.

    Actually, this week I'm joining up with a Jazz band I hope to be a permanent part of. (I'm a bassist, electric and double). I love jazz too. You got some taste there. :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexySilhouette View Post
    Hey, you ever seen an Irish movie called "The Commitments"?
    The very day it was out, I saw it. It was a great movie.... "Mustang Sally" had seldomly been performed that well earlier.... lots of good scenes.

    Give me MUSIC, and I'll applaud it... feed me porkfeed.... and I'll tell you what taste it is.
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