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    1986 Chevy Celebrity Eurosport

    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-autos-camions...ationFlag=true

    This is what the ad says (since it's written in French):

    "Chevrolet Celebrity Eurosport 1986, toit ouvrant, 140 000 km, boƮte de vitesse automatique, transmission roues motrices avant, peinture originale."
    "Chevrolet Celebrity Eurosport 1986, sunroof, 140 000km, automatic gearbox, front-wheel drive, original paint."
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    Nice car for age in Ohio and very cheap!

    87 Cutlass Ciera $200 obo - $200 (Bedford hieghts)
    https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/5214111852.html

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    Wow sweet rare wagon! It needs the transmission work though.

    Pontiac station wagon with low miles - $700 (niles, ohio)
    https://youngstown.craigslist.org/cto/5288321879.html

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    An awesome-condition looking '85 Celebrity Coupe for sale just south of me:

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/5246811482.html

    $700 seems like a reasonable price! Someday I'll get an '84 or '85 Coupe...
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    Not an A-body, but I didn't know you could get the Grand Prix GTP with a 3400 DOHC and a 5-speed:

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5295332859.html

    This would be a fun car!
    1985 Chevy Celebrity Sedan (2.8-X, THM125, JA2, F41)
    1954 Chevy 3100 Pickup (235 I-6, SM420)
    1994 Toyota Camry LE Coupe (2.2, A140)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Gold View Post
    Not an A-body, but I didn't know you could get the Grand Prix GTP with a 3400 DOHC and a 5-speed:

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5295332859.html

    This would be a fun car!
    Looks nice and clean!

    Ken T.

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    Nice wagon and need a little body work
    1992 Olds Cutlass Ciera wagon - $700 (akron)
    https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/5333006518.html

    Never seen a white top before.
    92 cutlass ciera 3300 v6 109000 clean Oldsmobile make offer (Thompson)
    https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/5329631589.html

    Omg, I want this wagon...would be a good project.
    Buick Century - $350 (Reynoldsburg)
    https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/5263223541.html

    Here's 1984 Century! So much stickers on the dash though..
    1984 Buick century - $1500 (Nashport)
    https://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/5324448505.html

    1987 Buick Century - $900 (Troy)
    https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/5297254571.html

    Whatever too many Centurys lol: https://columbus.craigslist.org/sear...auto_year=1996

    Cieras: https://columbus.craigslist.org/search/cto?query=ciera

    Celebritys: https://columbus.craigslist.org/sear...uery=celebrity

    Very good prices and I'm broke.. bad luck for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmwagon View Post
    Nice wagon and need a little body work
    1992 Olds Cutlass Ciera wagon - $700 (akron)
    https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/5333006518.html

    Never seen a white top before.
    92 cutlass ciera 3300 v6 109000 clean Oldsmobile make offer (Thompson)
    https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/5329631589.html

    Omg, I want this wagon...would be a good project.
    Buick Century - $350 (Reynoldsburg)
    https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/5263223541.html

    Here's 1984 Century! So much stickers on the dash though..
    1984 Buick century - $1500 (Nashport)
    https://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/5324448505.html

    1987 Buick Century - $900 (Troy)
    https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/5297254571.html

    Whatever too many Centurys lol: https://columbus.craigslist.org/sear...auto_year=1996

    Cieras: https://columbus.craigslist.org/search/cto?query=ciera

    Celebritys: https://columbus.craigslist.org/sear...uery=celebrity

    Very good prices and I'm broke.. bad luck for me.
    The '94 wagon is probably the nices one, but it's a '94. The engine knock is probably a neglected 3100 with the dreaded LIM gasket failure. Buick motors have nylon timing gears, and Chevy 3x00 motors have the plastic LIM gasket. Both have to be addressed....in time.

    Doesn't mean another motor can't be dropped in. For just $350, you can do a lot for that wagon.

    Ken T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Century7667 View Post
    .... Buick motors have nylon timing gears, and Chevy 3x00 motors have the plastic LIM gasket. Both have to be addressed...
    Yes, that's a fact. The only engine that didn't have an "Achilles Heel" was the 3300. It was a Buick engine, but did not have the plastic gear.

    The good thing about the older Buick 3.8 was the gear was a ONE TIME deal, whereas the 3100 LIM gaskets are a repeating thing over and over.

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    Ive been told over the years that if you avoid Dexcool in those engines that the gaskets last longer. Is there any truth to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1veedubber View Post
    Ive been told over the years that if you avoid Dexcool in those engines that the gaskets last longer. Is there any truth to this?
    Ken studied this question and has one of each type of sauce if I remember correctly. He gave his findings and opinion in his LIM thread.
    Maybe he can chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SegaGT View Post
    Ken studied this question and has one of each type of sauce if I remember correctly. He gave his findings and opinion in his LIM thread.
    Maybe he can chime in.
    Yes I believe he does have one of each.

    I don't know about the gasket life, but it is proven that the old green coolant is less destructive to the engine when it leaks into the oil. The Dex Cool is highly destructive to the engine bearings if it goes into the oil. So, if you are running Dex Cool and lose a gasket, you are much more likely to destroy the engine than you would be with the same leak and green coolant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1veedubber View Post
    Ive been told over the years that if you avoid Dexcool in those engines that the gaskets last longer. Is there any truth to this?
    *Maybe* Based on a very small sample size there *might* be something to this. I own two L82 3100 engines. The '95 came from the factory with Ethylene Glycol, and my '96 rolled off the assembly line with Dexcool (which from my research as been modified over the years).

    The fate of my '95 Century requires me to do the LIM / O-ring job on it. It's unsaleable in it's current state (I keep waiting for the car to burst into flame on the way to work for all the oil it is leaking...). Since I know what I am doing this time, I'll have all the part ordered in advance, and the job should go relatively quick. I'll post the condition of the LIM gasket when I do that job.

    One other data point is my 2001 S-10. It has the 2.2 4 cyl engine, which isn't well regarded on this forum; the knock being it would blow head gaskets (but no support for this on the S10 forum). Under powered and overworked on the S-platform running Dexcool, the engine has quietly accumulated 167,000 trouble free miles of service. The water pump lasted 147,000 miles before it started to leak, and no blown head gasket. Dexcool is definitely not an issue for that engine.

    Dexcool is to this day is used in GM vehicles, including out LS powered Silverado. One would think if Dexcool were so bad, GM would have dumped it to save itself from bankruptcy 6 years ago. What possible reason would they have to use something that would hurt business? I do know that other manufacturers use a variety of coolants; for example my father's Honda uses something that looks like washer fluid...

    Back to the 3100... There could be a link with Dexcool and the plastic / silicone LIM gaskets; maybe. But, GM has issues with the '94 and '95 3100 engines and their LIM gaskets...those engines came with the green ethylene glycol. I can debunk one rumor right now about Dexcool, it does NOT turn to jello. My '96 sat and sat with an open cooling system. No jello or anything like that.

    Personally, my main objection to Dexcool is the fact that it's orange, and resembles transmission fluid. Green is a lot easier to see.

    Ken T.

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    I'll jump in to this too, my opinion is worth what you are paying for it! I have researched a lot on the subject, especially after removing the original intake gaskets on our '96 and realizing someone had to be smoking crack to think that a plastic carrier with a Weather Pac seal around the ports would ever be a good, reliable design. It is a crap design no matter what coolant it is used with. IF Dexcool is a plasticizer, it only makes a bad design worse.

    There are revised/improved GM intake gasket designs for the 60 degree engines. The improved designs may be better or good for some engines, but the one or ones for our A-bodies were still no good (if even available anymore). The one that is supposed to be a real fix is a FelPro problem solver. It is a rubber coated metal carrier.

    There is some evidence to suggest some GM designs are more prone to cooling system issues with Dexcool. The biggest one that comes to mind is the alleged heater core plugging issue with 4.3 V6 powered (S10) vehicles. This is an admitted issue from sand in the castings, so whether it is really aggravated by Dexcool may be questionable. The other factor suggested is the systems that have a pressurized surge tank are less prone to the gelling issue than our A-bodies and others.

    With all that said, I used Dexcool in our '96 until it finally blew out the timing cover gasket. Always stayed clean but did have a low mileage failure of the water pump seal. I changed the coolant more often than 5 years / 100K miles too, and used only distilled water in the cooling system. It is easier and cheaper to get what seems to be the standard (now) Prestone extended life (green, all makes/models) coolant at Wallyworld. Drained the block too because I do think it is probably best to stick with a single chemical formulation. It is apparently very similar in formulation chemically (OAT technology, IIRC) to Dexcool.

    I've often been suspicious that the real 'horror stories' of Dexcool on the internet have more behind them. The biggest factors being a simple lack of maintenance and what ever the kids at the quick lube places use to 'top up' the systems. It just seems like there is always some contributing factor with detailed Dexcool stories, IMHO. However, I do suspect that it may become chemically unstable easier than most if those contributing factors arise.
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